LVSoxFan Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... Considering how last nights game was the first time we got shut out, I would say your opinion of us getting shut out all the time is pretty ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox1422 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... I wouldn't go that far. This was the first time they have been shut out all season. I expect them to bounce back tonight and to get a good dose of home field advantage when they get back tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Even if our offense resembles the 04 offense, that's ok since our pitching staff is light-years ahead of the 04 staff. Let's not forget that was the year when we went to a 4-man rotation for a while and Scott Schoenweis and Estebad Loiaza were half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 When I say shut out I am generalizing. Not literally, but you get the idea: we either rack 'em up or we're dismal. Think of it: two nights ago we were up 3-0 and they scored four runs. That was enough to beat us. Shutout, schmutout, you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) Considering how last nights game was the first time we got shut out, I would say your opinion of us getting shut out all the time is pretty ridiculous. /agree 1 shutout doesn't = 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 For the SECOND time, I was GENERALIZING. FORGET the part about "shutout." I meant: the whole feast or famine thing. !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:41 PM) When I say shut out I am generalizing. Not literally, but you get the idea: we either rack 'em up or we're dismal. Think of it: two nights ago we were up 3-0 and they scored four runs. That was enough to beat us. Shutout, schmutout, you get the idea. How dare we score 3 runs against the hottest pitcher in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) How dare we score 3 runs against the hottest pitcher in baseball. We faced Jose Contreras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) We faced Jose Contreras? I'm pretty sure C.C. has been the best pitcher in baseball since he came off the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) I'm pretty sure C.C. has been the best pitcher in baseball since he came off the DL. We are just a couple games off our 2005 pace. If the Tigers were like they were last year NO ONE would be complaining. But we have competition this year so it's the 2006 edition of: Edited June 1, 2006 by RibbieRubarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) We are just a couple games off our 2005 pace. If the Tigers were like they were last year NO ONE would be complaining. But we have competition this year so it's the 2006 edition of: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Holy sweet geezus... It's June 1st... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 All the guy said was that we've looked like the 2004 for team for the past week. That's entirely true. Can't hold leads, score a bunch of runs one game, then scrape a few across for the next few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 08:11 PM) Can't hold leads We've had problems holding leads all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Because I am a nerd, I compared the average runs scored and standard deviation for 2004, 2005, and 2006. The average runs at this point were: 2004 - 5.591836735 2005 - 4.403846154 2006 - 5.431372549 The standard deviation was: 2004 - 4.046183219 2005 - 2.144391823 2006 - 3.054536966 If I remember my math classes correctly, the standard deviation means that for example in 2004 66% of our games were within 4 runs of the average (5.59). So, in 2004 66% of the time we ranged between 1.59 and 9.59 runs. In 2005, we averaged 4.40 runs per game and most of the time we were within 2 runs of that average (a lot more consistent). This year we are pretty close to the same amount of runs per game as 2004, but we are not fluctuating as wildly. We are also not as consistent as 2005. So, this year is kind of falling between 2004 and 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) Because I am a nerd, I compared the average runs scored and standard deviation for 2004, 2005, and 2006. The average runs at this point were: 2004 - 5.591836735 2005 - 4.403846154 2006 - 5.431372549 The standard deviation was: 2004 - 4.046183219 2005 - 2.144391823 2006 - 3.054536966 If I remember my math classes correctly, the standard deviation means that for example in 2004 66% of our games were within 4 runs of the average (5.59). So, in 2004 66% of the time we ranged between 1.59 and 9.59 runs. In 2005, we averaged 4.40 runs per game and most of the time we were within 2 runs of that average (a lot more consistent). This year we are pretty close to the same amount of runs per game as 2004, but we are not fluctuating as wildly. We are also not as consistent as 2005. So, this year is kind of falling between 2004 and 2005. I think deviation isn't applicable in comparing 2005 to the other seasons since the mean is much lower and there's the possiblity of scoring 0 runs. But yeah, it can definitely compare 2004 and 2006 and it shows we are way more consistent in run scoring this season than in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... No, I really don't feel the same way. I think it is just you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) All the guy said was that we've looked like the 2004 for team for the past week. That's entirely true. Can't hold leads, score a bunch of runs one game, then scrape a few across for the next few. Thank YOU Milkman! Geez! I make one negative comment and people are spraining their knees, jerking them. What is this, WSI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Thank YOU Milkman! Geez! I make one negative comment and people are spraining their knees, jerking them. What is this, WSI? I get your point dude. Its just, maybe our offense is just better this year, and has won us several games that we may not have won last year. Especially with our pitching struggling a bit early in this season. If you took this rotation and paired it with those lineups Frank, Maggs, Lee, Konerko, im sure we would have been a better team. I have the utmost confidence that this team will be more consistently good than last years team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) What is this, WSI? No... it's June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) No... it's June. LMAO.. This has got to be one of the funniest days on this site in a loooooong time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) LMAO.. This has got to be one of the funniest days on this site in a loooooong time. We just want to see you in a shirt tearing contest. Come on, live up to the moniker of "doable"... YOU CAN DOOO IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) We just want to see you in a shirt tearing contest. Come on, live up to the moniker of "doable"... YOU CAN DOOO IT! I had jury duty........ Just in case you wanted someone to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) I had jury duty........ Just in case you wanted someone to judge. Go get my gyro, b****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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