Ndgt10 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Playing smartball doesn't work with guys who are acting like idiots. Bunting to the 3rd base side with AJ on 2nd, swinging at the first pitch, etc. You do want to make the 3B field it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nope, I honestly think those issues would be lessened if we could get any sort of production from the bottom of the order. Our offense has been very good, but with a better 8-9, we'd score enough where even our pitching could hold them. I won't get into a long debate about this here, but I think the significantly worse performances of two starting pitchers and the vast majority of the bullpen hurts the team a lot more than the moderate dropoff of the 8-9 hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) BA == nice guys but this ain't a frat party. we're trying to get back to October. Party on with BA and we're going home. Well, who else on this roster do you sugguest fills the hole? If you're advocating a trade, I agree with you, but Mack has cost this team more games with his lack of range in CF as BA has at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I don't care how good Robertson's been this year. He's struggling with his control tonight, and has been wild in the zone also. We've given up the first out in each inning, and Anderson fouled off some very hittable pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 05:59 PM) Dude! don't worry about it, Brian is going to turn it around any day now, and don't you know its all about relief pitching thats why were loosing, not because the fact our starters are underachieving and leaving the bullpen exposed or the fact that 22% of our lineup is an automatic out, its solely the bullpen. I scoff at the mere thought of Corey Patterson. I love how you try to blame B.A. there, and wind up having to admit that a big part of the problem is still the starting pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:00 AM) Are you Corey Patterson's wife? Gail Fischer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 07:00 PM) I don't care how good Robertson's been this year. He's struggling with his control tonight, and has been wild in the zone also. We've given up the first out in each inning, and Anderson fouled off some very hittable pitches. GOoch bunted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) Now where was that 2 seamer in the last inning. They should warm freddy up more. His pitches seem crisper after the 3rd or 4th inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndgt10 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 NICE inning by freddy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 08:00 PM) I love how you try to blame B.A. there, and wind up having to admit that a big part of the problem is still the starting pitching. What the f*** is the coaching staff doing to help BA. Are they doing anything besides batting practice. Is it time to get Hrniak back for a one on one session with BA. It seemed to work with Uribe last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 no blood. let's go gooch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 15 pitch inning there, 67 pitches through 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:01 AM) GOoch bunted? Nope, he tried to protect Pods on the steal, even though he had a huge jump. I'm not blaming Ozzie for that decision at all....it's just disturbing to keep avoiding the big inning by playing small ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I-Rod out. Could be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) What the f*** is the coaching staff doing to help BA. Are they doing anything besides batting practice. Is it time to get Hrniak back for a one on one session with BA. It seemed to work with Uribe last year. That's the thing that's absolutely driving me nuts with this kid, he doesn't look nearly as bad at the plate IMO as his numbers show. There's no amazing mechanical flaw like there is with Uribe, he's not overstriding, he's taking pitches/taking walks, he looks like he should just need to be taught how pitchers are going to deal with him, but it seems like nothing has changed at all with him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) Nope, he tried to protect Pods on the steal, even though he had a huge jump. I'm not blaming Ozzie for that decision at all....it's just disturbing to keep avoiding the big inning by playing small ball. even if Cintron had advanced the runners, do you think Brian would've gotten him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 08:00 PM) Are you Corey Patterson's wife? im actually his publicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Didnt Pudge get hurt last time they played us? This could be a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindersrule Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I am pretty sure our RPG is up quite a bit over last years numbers. That would suggest that the difference is on the pitching / defense side, regardless of what the bottom of our order is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) even if Cintron had advanced the runners, do you think Brian would've gotten him in? Sadly, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndgt10 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Damn, Iguchi goes 3-0 and then ends up grounding out weakly to the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:03 AM) That's the thing that's absolutely driving me nuts with this kid, he doesn't look nearly as bad at the plate IMO as his numbers show. There's no amazing mechanical flaw like there is with Uribe, he's not overstriding, he's taking pitches/taking walks, he looks like he should just need to be taught how pitchers are going to deal with him, but it seems like nothing has changed at all with him this year. I think he's worse now than he was earlier in the year. He's way too stiff at the plate. He stands straight up....a little knee bend would do him good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 make him pay PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndgt10 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I am pretty sure our RPG is up quite a bit over last years numbers. That would suggest that the difference is on the pitching / defense side, regardless of what the bottom of our order is doing. Think how much more our runs per game would be if we didn't have this bottom of the order crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Now our team's hottest man is up to bat .... make it happ'n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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