VAfan Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I'm not offering any names yet, but with Politte going on the DL with shoulder "soreness," let the speculation begin. We can't expect to go the season with a bullpen that cumulatively has less than Politte's 8 years of experience. Cotts 3, Thornton 2, Jenks Luis Vizcaino, for all his warts when he was here, would look very good in our present bullpen. He's doing well in Arizona. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=6291 I'm not suggesting he's our target, as AZ isn't getting rid of him while they are in first place. So let's hear some other names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) It's difficult to assess which teams are out of the race at this point. Also, bad teams usually have only young & cheap relievers meaning they wouldn't be trading them anyway. I looked at the rosters and found some likely candidates to be moved (your excitement level may vary): Guardado (SEA), Latroy Hawkins (BAL), Roberto Hernandez (PIT). I think I would take Hawkins provided you don't ask him to be your closer. He's not very likable, we all know that. Having a pretty decent season (3.67 ERA, 1.26 WHIP). Edited June 7, 2006 by Frankensteiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) I have to say, I like the thought of Hernandez. And what happened to the Osuna love? What is he doing now, btw? Edit: All that said, if Tracey gets the job done, hallelujah. Edited June 7, 2006 by jackie hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think it was extremely ballsy of Ozzie to put Montero in tonight's game in the 8th with a 1-run lead. Ozzie knows he can't use McCarthy every night, especially not after a two-inning performance. And it is not even clear what he's going to get out of McCarthy on any given night. He seems to swing between great and terrible. As for the names suggested, clearly Guardado doesn't fit the bill as a lefty. Plus he has arm troubles and has been hit hard. Hawkins and Hernandez seem possible. If the Nats hold a fire sale, they have some former Sox who are doing well as set up men -- Majewski and Jon Rauch. They probably won't get moved, though, as I'm sure it's a few years until they are FAs. If we kick off a little winning streak here, KW won't be pressed to act quickly. So let's hope the starters and offense take care of business and put us on a another 22-5 stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tealeafreaderii Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 11:56 PM) this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... No that's Murph pulling s*** out of his ass again, there ain't a chance in hell I do that trade. The guy just makes up trades that improve his Cubbies, he's f***ing delusional. What the hell has Scott Eyre proven in the AL anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 11:56 PM) this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... Although Murph is an idiot, this intrigues me. If The Cubs do this they are decimating their bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Cubs can't do it if the Sox don't, and they won't. So, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Besides the other names that have been mentioned thus far; Mike Stanton (Washington) - Lefty. 3.58 ERA last season, 3.96 ERA this season. Joe Borowski (Florida) - Won't be popular on here I'd say, but he does have late inning experience. Julio Mateo (Seattle) - The Mariners would be my first stop if you're looking for relief help. Guardado, and Mateo could probably be had. They've also got George Sherill who's having a real good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 11:56 PM) this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... Thats just Murph trying to pull a reverse Garland/Kartchner trade... Not biting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 What about Ray King or Jose Mesa from Colorado? King is from Chicago, I'm not sure about their contract situations though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 12:56 AM) this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... The Sox may be desperate for pen relief, but they sure as hell aren't stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 03:26 PM) What about Ray King or Jose Mesa from Colorado? King is from Chicago, I'm not sure about their contract situations though.. I don't think you can trust Mesa in late game situations. The Rockies will hold onto King so long as they're in the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palesox38 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I don't know about the possibility of this, but I would absolutley love to see the Sox get J.J. Putz from Seattle. High 90s fastball and a nasty breaking ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 03:40 PM) I don't know about the possibility of this, but I would absolutley love to see the Sox get J.J. Putz from Seattle. High 90s fastball and a nasty breaking ball. Would cost a lot. With Guardado not going to be back, Putz is currently Seattle's closer, and has done nothing so far to suggest he won't be in that role for the years ahead. Would probably be more likely to get a Mateo, a guy who's pitching more in middle relief right now. But Putz would be a great guy to have in our pen, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I'm going to mention his name just because I have much man love for him, Mike Gonzalez (even though he's a lefty) would be so f***ing great in the Sox' pen right now. He's not leaving Pitt any time soon (free agent after '09) but I can still have my odd fantasies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 03:42 PM) I'm going to mention his name just because I have much man love for him, Mike Gonzalez (even though he's a lefty) would be so f***ing great in the Sox' pen right now. He's not leaving Pitt any time soon (free agent after '09) but I can still have my odd fantasies. If you were to offer Pittsburgh a real good young hitter, I could actually see them making a deal, considering the problems they've had scoring runs in the past few seasons. So if you built a package around Josh Fields.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 12:36 AM) I don't think you can trust Mesa in late game situations. The Rockies will hold onto King so long as they're in the race. True but the Rockies are starting to fall back in the NL west right now...should be interesting to see what will happen come July 31st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) If you were to offer Pittsburgh a real good young hitter, I could actually see them making a deal, considering the problems they've had scoring runs in the past few seasons. So if you built a package around Josh Fields.......... AZ asked about him not long ago and the package they wanted was something like this, Steven Drew + Micah Owings and Miguel Montero which is to step of a price to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(BHAMBARONS @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 04:52 PM) AZ asked about him not long ago and the package they wanted was something like this, Steven Drew + Micah Owings and Miguel Montero which is to step of a price to pay Yikes. Dave Littlefield's gone all Chuck LaMar like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 11:56 PM) this is just a rumor from Murphy on 670... but he said... that BMac for eyre and Howry is a possibility... Now that's just funny I hope no one wonders why talk radio is pretty much worthless now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) I'm going to mention his name just because I have much man love for him, Mike Gonzalez (even though he's a lefty) would be so f***ing great in the Sox' pen right now. He's not leaving Pitt any time soon (free agent after '09) but I can still have my odd fantasies. His WHIP (1.57) sucks. I'd rather have Marte back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 11:12 AM) His WHIP (1.57) sucks. I'd rather have Marte back. Yeah, that makes sense. The induces ground balls the only problem with that is the defense behind him has been absolutely horendous since he came up and his control has been shaky at times as well. If you ever watched the guy pitch you could tell just how dominant he is going to be in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSox35 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 01:41 AM) Would cost a lot. With Guardado not going to be back, Putz is currently Seattle's closer, and has done nothing so far to suggest he won't be in that role for the years ahead. Would probably be more likely to get a Mateo, a guy who's pitching more in middle relief right now. But Putz would be a great guy to have in our pen, no doubt. Unrelated sorry, but can you name all the guys in your sig...I know Gio and Brandon, but not a few of the others. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 LaTroy Hawkins [provided AJ can put in a good word for him] would seem the most likely, best experienced set up arm available. Though things may change by early July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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