Hawk

[fathom]

AJ got plunked twice with the first pitch....hawk got pissed and IMO he had every right to be...

alot of soxtalkers are saying they were embarassed that hawk said the sox should retaliate

 

None of us would have cared if he just said they should retaliate. I can't believe he said some of the s*** he did.

[jphat007]

thanks

I bet tracy doesn't have the balls to intentionally hit someone yet

 

I don't think that's it. I think he just isn't very good, and has zero control. He can't throw it where he wants to.

[G&T]

Maybe he was pissed cause they didn't have the cell's there yet..

 

Well if it was a wireless, he could have thrown the phone at Padilla himself.

[SoxFan1]

yeah and padilla throwing at AJs head with a 90 mph hardball isnt bulls***...please...this is baseball, not golf

I gotta agree. We should have retaliated somehow. In baseball, retaliation is acceptable and acknowledged. Fights happen, it's part of the game. Bad call on the ump to take away any chance of retaliation for the Sox. If your guy gets thrown at twice, you throw at their guys too. Thats baseball. Now, Hawk, being the old school SOB that he is, went crazy with the kneecap and wait outside the hotel room thing. And personally, I like it.

[Dan]

if anybody is ashamed of The Hawk's reaction, you are straight up pussies. as a Sox fan, how are you not mad at Padilla?

[Kalapse]

if anybody is ashamed of The Hawk's reaction, you are straight up pussies. as a Sox fan, how are you not mad at Padilla?

Haha, now we're gettin somewhere.

[daa84]

I gotta agree. We should have retaliated somehow. In baseball, retaliation is acceptable and acknowledged. Fights happen, it's part of the game. Bad call on the ump to take away any chance of retaliation for the Sox. If your guy gets thrown at twice, you throw at their guys too. Thats baseball. Now, Hawk, being the old school SOB that he is, went crazy with the kneecap and wait outside the hotel room thing. And personally, I like it.

you gotta remember hawks old broadcast partner was none other than probably the most feared head hunter in the history of the game don drysdale

[jphat007]

I just watched the fight from the Detroit game in 2000 the other day. That thing was so bad ass. Bill Simas coming running into the pile. FIck acting like an asshole. Surprisingly, Hawk wasn't as talkative as I remember. Just kinda sat there and watched. There were like 2 big fights and a mini fight that day. Awesome.

[daa84]

I just watched the fight from the Detroit game in 2000 the other day. That thing was so bad ass. Bill Simas coming running into the pile. FIck acting like an asshole. Surprisingly, Hawk wasn't as talkative as I remember. Just kinda sat there and watched. There were like 2 big fights and a mini fight that day. Awesome.

exactly people loved it when anderson jumped in for his teammates throwin haymakers, but think its classless to try to hit a ball back at padilla?

 

btw: whered you see that fight, id love to see the replay as well

Edited June 15, 2006 by daa84

[fathom]

if anybody is ashamed of The Hawk's reaction, you are straight up pussies. as a Sox fan, how are you not mad at Padilla?

 

I wish some of our starters had the balls of Padilla. He challenged the Sox, and he shoved it up our ass after the altercations.

[SoxFan1]

I wish some of our starters had the balls of Padilla. He challenged the Sox, and he shoved it up our ass after the altercations.

Cough...Garland....ahem. Cough.

[fathom]

exactly people loved it when anderson jumped in for his teammates throwin haymakers, but think its classless to try to hit a ball back at padilla?

 

First, we'd have to hit the ball hard against Padilla to take out a knee. Second, that would have been great to see. However, Hawk sounded like he was rooting for an injury to happen.

[jphat007]

exactly people loved it when anderson jumped in for his teammates throwin haymakers, but think its classless to try to hit a ball back at padilla?

 

btw: whered you see that fight, id love to see the replay as well

 

Have it on DVD. Really s***ty VHS copy on the DVD. I'll try to upload the video someday and bring the link over here.

[Dick Allen]

Maybe Ozzie was screaming into the bullpen phone because maybe Tracey didn't get the message.

[daa84]

I wish some of our starters had the balls of Padilla. He challenged the Sox, and he shoved it up our ass after the altercations.

no doubt about that, thats why tomorrow we need to make a statement by getting a big lead and then just pushing it down their F-ing throats, no letting up...swinging 3-0, stealing bases in a blow out, etc., and then late in the game if the situation calls for it, brushing someone back

[Dan]

I wish some of our starters had the balls of Padilla. He challenged the Sox, and he shoved it up our ass after the altercations.

damn straight he did. but hes a fool. anybody who really knows baseball would acknowledge the fact that intetionally beaning a player on the first pitch with nobody out can be a death warrant. if AJ had come around and scored, Padilla would feel like a douche, you see it from the other side of the spectrum now?

[SoxAce]

Cough...Garland....ahem. Cough.

 

Honestly.. what would you expect from a California boy..? (no offense Jason.. )

[SoxFan1]

Honestly.. what would you expect from a California boy..? (no offense Jason.. )

Take a f***ing surfboard and hit Padilla with it dead in the kneecap!

 

And don't apologize to Jason, his claim to fame is the beard. If only Jon had a beard with that awesomeness...

Edited June 15, 2006 by SoxFan1

[fathom]

damn straight he did. but hes a fool. anybody who really knows baseball would acknowledge the fact that intetionally beaning a player on the first pitch with nobody out can be a death warrant. if AJ had come around and scored, Padilla would feel like a douche, you see it from the other side of the spectrum now?

 

Well, considering that was my main argument for why I'm not 100 pct sure the 2nd HBP was intentional, I definitely understand what you're saying. I just hope Ozzie doesn't throw a hissy-fit about the Tracey incident. If Ozzie wanted something done, he could have told his buddy Montero to do it.

[The Ginger Kid]

MLB news says Ozzie was yelling at Tracey when he came out? I had turned it off by that point.

[daa84]

MLB news says Ozzie was yelling at Tracey when he came out? I had turned it off by that point.

well tracey certainly tried to hit blalock, but he just didnt get it done, that type of thing happens. ie shawn estes roger clemens

[Dan]

Well, considering that was my main argument for why I'm not 100 pct sure the 2nd HBP was intentional, I definitely understand what you're saying. I just hope Ozzie doesn't throw a hissy-fit about the Tracey incident. If Ozzie wanted something done, he could have told his buddy Montero to do it.

i agree with you 110%. You look at a guy like Tracey, fresh up from the minors, still not used to big league hitting, he doesnt wanna make a mistake and have Ozzie(who is notorious for) sending him back down to the minors. Hes buddy-buddy with Montero, why not have him do your dirty work?

[Guest JimH]

I just hope Ozzie doesn't throw a hissy-fit about the Tracey incident. If Ozzie wanted something done, he could have told his buddy Montero to do it.

 

First of all, he shouldn't have to tell anybody on his team to do anything. They should know. Not only did Vazquez not plunk a guy, he didn't even make them move their feet. And I'm talking about after Pierzynski was hit the first time. There was no mistake IMO about Padilla's intent either time, but especially the first. That, to me, was a no doubter. Where is Vazquez the very next inning? No warning had been issued yet.

 

Maybe getting drilled will give Pierzynski the idea that it's a good idea to pitch the opposition inside. Everything Vazquez got hurt on tonite was due to him throwing pitches on the outer half. The Sox starters need to do a lot better job establishing the inside strike, and part of that is the catcher's responsibility. It's a team game and lots of guys didn't do their jobs tonite.

[Dan]

First of all, he shouldn't have to tell anybody on his team to do anything. They should know. Not only did Vazquez not plunk a guy, he didn't even make them move their feet. And I'm talking about after Pierzynski was hit the first time. There was no mistake IMO about Padilla's intent either time, but especially the first. That, to me, was a no doubter. Where is Vazquez the very next inning? No warning had been issued yet.

 

Maybe getting drilled will give Pierzynski the idea that it's a good idea to pitch the opposition inside. Everything Vazquez got hurt on tonite was due to him throwing pitches on the outer half. The Sox starters need to do a lot better job establishing the inside strike, and part of that is the catcher's responsibility. It's a team game and lots of guys didn't do their jobs tonite.

ill tell ya where Vazquez is. Hes keeping his head on straight in the middle of a ball game. Good Post.

[The Ginger Kid]

well tracey certainly tried to hit blalock, but he just didnt get it done, that type of thing happens. ie shawn estes roger clemens

so you're saying Ozzie was pissed he DID NOT hit him, or pissed that he tried?