AddisonStSox Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:21 PM) Riske can bring it, the back is definitely a question mark, he's had problems with it in the past. His back simply needs to withstand three and a half months of baseball; after that, the Sox are no longer on the hook for him. The price for a reliever like Riske--all things considered, including injury--will skyrocket in three to four weeks' time. This is a relative steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 riske was always in talks of being a closer both on CLE and BOS if true, this is a very good move. he can be as good as politte was a couple of years ago. i lak it a lawt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I was wondering why there was an article in pale hose about Riske. Good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 So, the one thing I will note is that the Sons of Sam Horn, and Boston's media in general, appear to have soured rather quickly on Riske. He's been described thus far as inconsistent, among other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) So, the one thing I will note is that the Sons of Sam Horn, and Boston's media in general, appear to have soured rather quickly on Riske. He's been described thus far as inconsistent, among other things. But we have Coop!!! That should straighten him out right quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) So, the one thing I will note is that the Sons of Sam Horn, and Boston's media in general, appear to have soured rather quickly on Riske. He's been described thus far as inconsistent, among other things. I've learned to complete ignore any harsh sentiments coming out of Boston or New York. If you remember the Loaiza trade, you would have thought the Yankess acquired a right-handed Warren Spahn. They'll talk up Lopez as if he was one of the game's better prospects, Gammons will enlighten the country on the trade, and, before you know it, the Red Sox fleeced the White Sox. Things are par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:36 PM) I've learned to complete ignore any harsh sentiments coming out of Boston or New York. If you remember the Loaiza trade, you would have thought the Yankess acquired a right-handed Warren Spahn. They'll talk up Lopez as if he was one of the game's better prospects, Gammons will enlighten the country on the trade, and, before you know it, the Red Sox fleeced the White Sox. Things are par for the course. Good. Let everyone think that...and when Riske pulls an El Duque '06, who'll be laughing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) Good. Let everyone think that...and when Riske pulls an El Duque '06, who'll be laughing then? I agree ............ obviously the SOX scouts thought highly enough of him to make this move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 10:39 AM) Good. Let everyone think that...and when Riske pulls an El Duque '06, who'll be laughing then? El Duque 06? the 5.51 ERA? The whopping 4 starts for the Mets thus far? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 If you remember the Loaiza trade, you would have thought the Yankess acquired a right-handed Warren Spahn. good times, good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Indians fans will tell you Riske sometimes suffers from the, as Hawk likes to say, "can't pull a greased tee out of his ass with a pair of pliers" syndrome, although he can be very tough. I do recall, at least 3 or 4 years ago, he was compared to Keith Foulke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:35 PM) But we have Coop!!! That should straighten him out right quick! This is a good point. We have one of the BEST pitching coaches in baseball with Cooper, and one of the BEST trainers in Herm Schneider. If anyone can work magic, its definitely these two. Remember the props Bo Jackson gave Herm in his recovery and training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 11:56 AM) I didn't know about a bad back until now, but on the surface, how can you not like this deal? We gave up a guy with picked up for nothing to get a solid RH reliever, who will step right into the set up role. Even if his back acts up, we still lost nothing. Great move, especially this early in the season... This is exactly right. Obviously, the Sox weren't all that high on Lopez. If Riske bombs, all it really costs is cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:35 PM) But we have Coop!!! That should straighten him out right quick! Exactly. Like he's straightened out Garland, Garcia and Vazquez thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Official Press Release Trade is official. Sean Tracey is officially Charlotte bound. Edited June 15, 2006 by Greg The Bull Luzinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Javier Lopez was never going to pitch for the Sox, or else he would have replaced Boone or been up instead of Agustin. This is no-risk, high reward. Lopez had a tough time getting righties out in AAA. Riske can get lefties out as well and isn't horrible against righties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Poorly written press release. It almost sounded like Tracey was part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 10:53 AM) Poorly written press release. It almost sounded like Tracey was part of the deal. made sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Brilliantly orchastrated by KW-with all the temptation to bring up a reliever, he kept him there-didnt screw with success he had at Charlotte, and increased his value. We pulled off a good one here. I wonder if this was done because they have given up on getting Hermanson back at all this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:43 PM) Indians fans will tell you Riske sometimes suffers from the, as Hawk likes to say, "can't pull a greased tee out of his ass with a pair of pliers" syndrome, although he can be very tough. I do recall, at least 3 or 4 years ago, he was compared to Keith Foulke. So are we talking about a RH Damaso Marte? Million dollar arm, 10 cent head? Meh, its still an improvement on the question marks we had, plus he will be the middle relief guy, not nearly as much pressure there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:53 PM) Poorly written press release. It almost sounded like Tracey was part of the deal. Only if you're reading with your eyes closed. Seemed perfectly fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:55 PM) made sense to me. The word 'optioned' could be construed as an adjective. QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:58 PM) Only if you're reading with your eyes closed. Seemed perfectly fine to me. Thanks smart ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:02 PM) The word 'optioned' could be construed as an adjective. If you don't understand Baseball, yes that is true. However "optioned" is quite obviously a verb in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Three Year Splits for Riske vs. LHB .195 vs. RHB .233 Sub 3 ERA in June, July, August and October 3.3 or so in Sept. 2.86 post all star 1.78 ERA against Detroit in 30 IP 2.65 ERA @ the Cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Wow, just found out about this deal and I really like it. Riske always killed us when he was with Cleveland and he knows AL Central hitters. If he stays healthy, it works out well for the Sox. Nice deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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