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Tracey and Ozzie...


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Guillen tells Tracy to bean Blalock.

Tracy misses. (There's debate as to whether he disobeyed orders, half-assed his attempt, or merely missed due to his poor control.)

Guillen throws water bottle.

Pulls Tracy from game after 1 batter (Blalock, who grounds out).

Is seen yelling across the dugout at Tracy, who looks sad, pulls his shirt over his head, and is generally moping.

Tracy gets sent down. Refuses comment in the media.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 05:53 PM)
You sir are editorializing when he asked for news!! ;)

 

Nope. The facts are that our catcher was thrown at twice, we retaliated, but for some reason we tried to do it with a pitcher that has no control, so he missed target twice before getting a groundout. What is also fact and not debateable is that Ozzie made an ass of himself by chewing out a player for failing to be a goon in plain view of T.V. cameras, and that Hawk made an ass of himself by talking big about how he would meet Padilla after the game or some s*** if he played. Yeah Hawk, and Padilla would have kicked your ass, just like a lot of people annoyed by your homerism would like to do often times.

 

(note: bolded part=editorializing)

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 06:03 PM)
No, that's what I would do if I was as dumb as you appear to be in your posts today. And what point does that post have other than ignoring my accurate comments and trying to look clever? None of course.

 

 

No need to get all huffy, little fella. If you needed another, all you had to do was ask.

 

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 05:50 PM)
Ozzie and our broadcaster made complete asses of themselves, and the fanbase for the most part ignored it and jumped to their defense.

I didn't ignore the situation or jump to eithers defense.

 

I just don't sympathize with Tracey's situation. Tough luck, kid. Pitch well and you'll be up in September.

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What is also fact and not debateable is that Ozzie made an ass of himself by chewing out a player for failing to be a goon in plain view of T.V. cameras, and that Hawk made an ass of himself by talking big about how he would meet Padilla after the game or some s*** if he played.

 

You really need to understand the difference between opinion and fact.

 

What's stated above is your opinion ... I'm sure others have a different opinion.

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QUOTE(bulokis @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 06:42 PM)
What did they say? I actually missed the whole thing so I dont know how to react.

 

Everyone on BBTN pretty much said that Ozzie overreacted a little, but was right...And they weren't sure whether or not Tracey was, in fact, trying to hit Blalock...Something about "no vested interest in hitting Blalock, Blalock never did anything to him so, he wasn't angry enough blahblahblah."

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 05:50 PM)
Ozzie and our broadcaster made complete asses of themselves, and the fanbase for the most part ignored it and jumped to their defense.

 

point blank, he shoulda been hit. If the kid can't handle getting yelled at, he's gonna have alot more to worry about than a manager getting on his case

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 05:59 PM)
Nope. The facts are that our catcher was thrown at twice, we retaliated, but for some reason we tried to do it with a pitcher that has no control, so he missed target twice before getting a groundout. What is also fact and not debateable is that Ozzie made an ass of himself by chewing out a player for failing to be a goon in plain view of T.V. cameras, and that Hawk made an ass of himself by talking big about how he would meet Padilla after the game or some s*** if he played. Yeah Hawk, and Padilla would have kicked your ass, just like a lot of people annoyed by your homerism would like to do often times.

 

(note: bolded part=editorializing)

 

I said you were editoriolizing in your response to the post. You responded with this to say that you weren't editorializing. I was just teasing, although you very well weren't giving anything resembling objectivity.

 

Ozzie and our broadcaster made complete asses of themselves, and the fanbase for the most part ignored it and jumped to their defense.

 

Because that's not opinion at all.

That said, I agree with you that Ozzie looked quite primitive while throwing his bottle and shrieking at one of his players across the dugout, but that's very much an opinion and not a fact.

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 05:59 PM)
The facts are that our catcher was thrown at twice, we retaliated, but for some reason we tried to do it with a pitcher that has no control, so he missed target twice before getting a groundout.

 

Yeah Hawk, and Padilla would have kicked your ass, just like a lot of people annoyed by your homerism would like to do often times.

 

(note: bolded part=editorializing)

 

No control? It's not like a HUMAN BEING is a small target. You could pull people out of the stands that could bean Hank on their first try! Maybe if he walked him, but he missed beaning him TWICE and still got his ass out. That's called a half assed attempt...these are professional baseball players we're talking about.

 

Hawk played in a different era, do you not know of it?

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