Linnwood Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Guillen doubts he'll attend sensitivity training By Enrique Rojas ESPNdeportes.com CHICAGO -- Ozzie Guillen doesn't know what a sensitivity course is about, and he doubts he'll ever attend one, even though commissioner Bud Selig ordered the Chicago White Sox manager to attend sensitivity training and fined him an undisclosed amount of money as punishment for his derogatory remarks to journalist Jay Mariotti. "I don't think I'll be going, I don't think that'll happen," Guillen told ESPNdeportes.com in an interview at U.S. Cellular Field on Friday. The interview was conducted in Spanish. "I think the commissioner ordered that in order to calm things down, but, obviously, to attend one of those, I'll have to take English lessons first," he added. Guillen called Mariotti an offensive word, often used to refer to people's sexual preference. Mariotti is a columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times and collaborates on ESPN's "Around The Horn." "I'll do what I have to do, at least when I have time, but I don't think I'll take those sensitivity lessons," Guillen said. "I want to make it clear that I left school a long time ago and that I learned English in the streets. I have three boys at school and I am too old to return to a classroom," he said. The White Sox, who were a half-game behind Detroit in the AL Central, started a three-game series against the Houston Astros on Friday. They defeated the Astros last October to win the World Series for the first time since 1917. While White Sox players practiced peacefully, Guillen answered dozens of questions from journalists. Could it be that Guillen is always caught up in some kind of conflict as a tactic to take pressure off his players? "I don't think that way, but it has turned out pretty good. In a way, things have turned out like that," Guillen said. "I've obviously been in Chicago longer than these guys. I've been in this organization and in this city for 17 years and I know better than them how things are handled around here," he added. "I'd rather they talked about me and not about one of them." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2498795 I really wish we could get past this s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I think this is too much, just stay out of further trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Jeez, Ozzie. Just take the damn course and be done with it. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 ESPNdeportes is in English??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 He probably wouldn't have time until seasons end anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 10:05 PM) ESPNdeportes is in English??? Google Translator is pretty funny: http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8 Ozzie Guillén, manager of the Average White of Chicago, admits that it applies for both cases. “I will not let say the things as I feel them, before changing I prefer to leave to my house in Venezuela, to enjoy my money and to leave all this tangle (the responsibilities to direct)”, said to Guillén to ESPNdeportes Thursday in the U.S. Cellular Field de Chicago. Edited June 24, 2006 by Linnwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Just another episode of Ozzie being Ozzie. *laughtrack* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 What really gets me is that even in America the word doesn't really have the meaning like it does in the HBO series "Deadwood"....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Just another episode of Ozzie being Ozzie. *laughtrack* Agreed...seems likes he's threatening to leave the team every year too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) Agreed...seems likes he's threatening to leave the team every year too... I can't believe you still don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 11:16 PM) I can't believe you still don't get it. I get it completely but I still don't like the comparison. In a way, it's calling Ozzie selfish while I still think that he's more team-first, no matter how much he runs his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Gawd I love Ozzie. He is such a breath of fresh air in sports. The commish will bleep his pants when he reads that story. Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 11:21 PM) I get it completely but I still don't like the comparison. In a way, it's calling Ozzie selfish while I still think that he's more team-first, no matter how much he runs his mouth. You're taking the comparison too literally, you have to break it down to what it is at it's core. You tend to hear 2 very similar things from both groups of Sox fans. 1.) I really don't care what Manny says or does, as long as he keeps hitting HRs he can do whatever he wants, afterall it's just Manny being Manny. 2.) I really don't care what Ozzie says or does, as long as the team keeps winning he can do whatever he wants, afterall it's just Ozzie being Ozzie. Ozzie, isn't selfish at all and the players absolutely adore him but after every childish thing he says or does you here people use the "it's just Ozzie being Ozzie" line. QUOTE(greg775 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) Gawd I love Ozzie. He is such a breath of fresh air in sports. The commish will bleep his pants when he reads that story. Awesome. The representive of a multi-million dollar franchise refusing to adhere to a direct request from the Commissioner's Office sure is a bresh of fresh air, insubordination is so refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Kalapse he isn't going to get suspended or in trouble for saying he "doubts" he'll go to sensitivity training. Oz is a minority manager and the commish isn't going to go there. Oz will go to the meeting if he has to but he'll make the commish sweat for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 And then there are his gay friends. I dial up the one who text-messaged Ozzie. "I've known him 15 years, the whole family,'' the man said, "and he is wonderful and so warm. I'm an interior decorator. I go to his house. He comes here for barbecues. He embraces every walk of life. He's not homophobic in any way.'' Then there is Ozzie's homosexual friend, Edwin Quiros, a -- guess what? -- hairdresser. "I am gay,'' Quiros said. "All my gay friends who have met him love him. I started laughing when I first heard about this controversy. You have to know Ozzie and know how nice and caring he is. Believe me, I've heard that word way too many times to be offended.'' Sorry to reply to my own reply but I liked this story in Sun Times. It says it all by Telander. Oz is not prejudiced against gays. He merely trusts the media too much mouthing off figuring they won't quote him. He's learned his lesson now. He won't be trusting the media any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) According to a wrap-up on yahoo... ESPNdeportes.com quoted Guillen as saying Friday evening that he probably would not attend sensitivity training. When asked about that after the game, the manager responded with a lengthy diatribe in which he said he first needs to take English classes "to understand what they're talking about" and threatened to "start being nasty with the media" if they continued to ask questions about that. "It's a really uncomfortable situation for me," Guillen said. "I don't need this job. It's hard everyday. ... If someone tries to play games, I'm sorry, but you've got the wrong guy." Guillen got up and walked out of the interview room. A few minutes later, he said through a team spokesman he will undergo the training. Edited June 24, 2006 by chimpy2121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 This should be the part where he shuts his mouth and undergoes training before he makes matters worse for himself and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 The day Oz has to shut his mouth is the day he should resign. Oz has to be Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Jun 24, 2006 -> 12:44 AM) The day Oz has to shut his mouth is the day he should resign. Oz has to be Oz. He shut his mouth when he was speaking the truth about A-Rod. He should shut his mouth now that he's throwing a hissy fit about not speaking enough English to take a sensitivity course. He can't always be his own boss, and this is one of those battles you've gotta just say, "It ain't worth fighting" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) I agree with Ozzie. He should not have to go through the friggin training. This political correctness crap has to end. He called a guy who has been taking cheap shots at him for three years a ***. Big fricken deal. Marriotti is a jackass and a coward. In other words... a ***. Not in the homosexual sense of the word but in the derogatory sense. All of the negative connotations of the word apply to Marriotti. In a league that has teams named the Braves and Indians (see the NCAA), this is a little hypocritical. As for Marriotti, he has now stopped just being an A-hole and is now effecting the on-field game. Not reading his columns is no longer enough. I am contacting advertisers in the Sun~Times and telling them I refuse to purchase their products because they advertise in the Times. Edited June 24, 2006 by My Dixie Normus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(greg775 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) Gawd I love Ozzie. He is such a breath of fresh air in sports. The commish will bleep his pants when he reads that story. Awesome. Awesome indeed. Ozzie's blatant insubordination to Selig and the PC crowd is shocking and inspiring. I don't even think the PC fairies believe sensitivity training will make Ozzie less likely to offend people, so it's pointless for him to attend. Sending Ozzie to sensitivity training is just a way for people to think something has been done to corral what they deem inappropriate language. How does Ozzie respond? With a big FU to the fairies. I love it. Edited June 24, 2006 by shoota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Machine Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Maybe he's just waiting until the offseason so they can televise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Brian had to attend sensitivity training last (the entire company did due to two "groups" at work getting into it). He said it was funny, but nothing new (or didn't already know). For him, he was getting paid to sit on his ass so he was happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoyne Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Even though I know sensitivity training won't change the Oz, it's a good PR move not only for the White Sox, but also for baseball. Just sit through it Ozzie, you will be doing your organization a lot of good just by showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry wiggins Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 The ballclub and Ozzie say that he will take the classes. Ozzie also tells reporters to STFU about it from now on. I love Ozzie. http://tinyurl.com/qxqgd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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