Official 2006 NBA Draft Thread

[AssHatSoxFan]

i figured with the draft coming up this Wednesday that we could start a new thread for any big rumors leading up to the draft and to chat about the draft as it goes on

[SoxFan1]

Or you can join us at TalkBulls and discuss all the rumors and possibilites surrounding the Bulls before the draft.

Edited June 25, 2006 by SoxFan1

[DBAHO]

Some pre draft news;

 

Most of the top 15 players have settled into their spots, now the remaining question is who will trade up to grab them. Several teams are working on deals to move up, word is Charlotte is hot to move up and is dangling the #3 and Brevin Knight at Toronto and Chicago. The Timberwolves are rumored to be moving their pick, possibly moving down into the teens, much will depend whether certain players land were they are expected. The common phrase being said by player personnel executives is “value in the teens”, with more value being placed on the picks 10 through 20, than being placed on players likely going in the top 10. Word is as many as 6 of the top 10 picks are in play, and its expected as many as five teams will ultimately draft a player for another club, making Wednesday’s draft one of the more eventful drafts in recent years. The Orlando Magic, Houston Rockets, and The Miami Heat are all rumored to have consummated a handful of deals to insure they nab the player they covet, and do not be surprised to see one or two of them grab a player in the top portion of the draft.

 

Who goes #1? The smart money says its going to be LaMarcus Aldridge, if Toronto keeps the pick – with the smarter money saying the pick is dealt, or at least the player selected with the pick is dealt, at some point before the draft is over. Adam Morison continues to be the hottest name in the class, but the odds he goes #1 are pretty slim, unless Toronto nabs him for someone else, like Portland. The Bulls are not expected to keep the player they grab at #2, the question becomes how far down is the real players the Bulls seek – its rumored the Lakers and Rockets both have a deal on the table with Chicago, the question is who does Chicago trigger the deal with. The Charlotte Bobcats may keep the player they draft at number 3, and the smart money says its Rudy Gay, although its believed Bernie Bickerstaff and company are putting the hard sell on Adam Morrison as the next Bobcat draft pick, something Michael Jordan is said to be less than interested in. The dark horse to Charlotte is Tyrus Thomas.

 

The Bulls will likely spend every nickel of their money, but it’s expected with the Bulls nabbing as many as three players from the draft, and having eyes for Al Harrington and Joel Przybilla the money is not going to go to one player, likely several players to give the Bulls the depth they desperately needed in the playoffs.

 

The Houston Rockets may be closing in on a deal, although it’s a lot further away than many in the press want you to believe. In an odd turn of events the Rockets brought in Brandon Roy and Tyrus Thomas for workouts and meetings late in the week, leading many to believe the Rockets were getting into a deal with Chicago. The Rockets say they simply wanted to see both players and there was nothing in the works as of yet, league sources peg Houston as a team desperate to add an impact player and wanted to gauge Roy and Thomas first hand before moving to the table. Should Brandon Roy go #2 as some are expecting he will, the odds he stays in Chicago are pretty slim. Houston could be the team that grabs him, especially if Chicago’s player of choice is still there when Houston drafts at #8 – Roy himself told a group of reporters that he’d been told Houston was trying to move up to grab him.

 

There's a chance that Boston will select Ronnie Brewer at 7. Brewer worked out for Boston last week and they appear to be very high on him. The only problem is there figures to be a player that slips out of the top 5 into the Celtics lap, so Boston will really have to be high on Brewer to take him over a higher ranked player. There's also the chance that they will make a deal to move down a few spots and pick up a player or pick with the idea to select him in the 12-15 range.

[dasox24]

Thanks for all the updates, DBAH0

 

 

Edit: Who do either the Rockets or Lakers have that the Bulls would want? Would it be possible for the Bulls to still get Aldridge if they trade down to #8? I think it would be if let's says the draft goes like this:

 

1) Toronto - Bargnani

2) Houston (from Chi) - Tyrus Thomas

3) Charlotte - Rudy Gay

4) Portland - Adam Morrison

5) ATL - Shelden Williams

6) Minn - Brandon Roy

7) Boston - Marcus Williams/Randy Foye

8) Chi (from Houston) - LaMarcus Aldridge

 

The possibilities are endless, but this is one that could very well happen.

 

Btw, for this trade to happen, I think the Bulls wait 'till the 8th pick to make sure whoever they may want is still available.

Edited June 26, 2006 by dasox24

[SoxAce]

Interesting.....

[DBAHO]

I couldn't see Aldridge falling all the way down to #8.

 

Atlanta should grab him at 5, even if they have an agreement with Williams.

 

But this draft is going to be real interesting to watch just because there could be so many trades in the top 10.

[southsider2k5]

Or you can join us at TalkBulls and discuss all the rumors and possibilites surrounding the Bulls before the draft.

 

^^^^ Plenty of rumors, talk, and the mock draft all going on

[DBAHO]

Right now, unless Charlotte trades up to #1 to get Tyrus Thomas, I think they're going to take Rudy Gay at #3.

 

The only way I can Orlando nabbing Gay is if, Charlotte goes for Morrison at #3, Portland takes a big, Atlanta takes Shelden, and Minnesota nab Brandon Roy.

 

Then we could trade up with Boston, who want to trade down. Give em a 2nd rounder, or if you hav to, Dooling for doing so, so we can nab Gay.

 

Right now nbadraft.net has up taking Shannon Brown at #11, ahead of the likes of Brewer and Redick. They have Aldridge slipping all the way down to Seattle at #10 too FWIW.

[redandwhite]

How can Aldridge possibly slip to ten!? If the Celtics pass on him, I'll be one unhappy camper.

[Rowand44]

How can Aldridge possibly slip to ten!? If the Celtics pass on him, I'll be one unhappy camper.

It's not going to happen(LA slipping to 10), there's no way imo.

[SoxAce]

The Clock

 

Countdown to Tyrus Thomas being a Chicago Bull.

[SoxFan1]

The Clock

 

Countdown to Tyrus Thomas being a Chicago Bull.

You're happy about that?

[SoxAce]

You're happy about that?

 

Oh yea. Several reasons but I won't get into it. I just laugh everytime you say he has no offensive game whatsoever and he can hit 15-18 foot jumper regularly where Chandler couldn't even sniff a jumper at all. He is what you call "raw" Chandler is "extremely raw" like of like Sene. I honeslty feel Pax will do whatever is best for the team if it's drafting Thomas, someone else, (I personally like Roy, Aldridge even though Rudy Gay will be the best player in this draft when it's all said and done) or trade (I still feel personally we will make a trade with someone) I will be at work unfortunitally so I won't see the draft so hopefully I'll come home tomorrow hearing that we got Garnett..

[SoxFan1]

Oh yea. Several reasons but I won't get into it. I just laugh everytime you say he has no offensive game whatsoever and he can hit 15-18 foot jumper regularly where Chandler couldn't even sniff a jumper at all. He is what you call "raw" Chandler is "extremely raw" like of like Sene. I honeslty feel Pax will do whatever is best for the team if it's drafting Thomas, someone else, (I personally like Roy, Aldridge even though Rudy Gay will be the best player in this draft when it's all said and done) or trade (I still feel personally we will make a trade with someone) I will be at work unfortunitally so I won't see the draft so hopefully I'll come home tomorrow hearing that we got Garnett..

I agree on the Garnett part but I just hate Thomas. He is smaller than Rudy Gay. Come on.

 

You have allowed ESPN to brainwash you.

Edited June 28, 2006 by SoxFan1

[Kalapse]

Oh yea. Several reasons but I won't get into it. I just laugh everytime you say he has no offensive game whatsoever and he can hit 15-18 foot jumper regularly where Chandler couldn't even sniff a jumper at all. He is what you call "raw" Chandler is "extremely raw" like of like Sene. I honeslty feel Pax will do whatever is best for the team if it's drafting Thomas, someone else, (I personally like Roy, Aldridge even though Rudy Gay will be the best player in this draft when it's all said and done) or trade (I still feel personally we will make a trade with someone) I will be at work unfortunitally so I won't see the draft so hopefully I'll come home tomorrow hearing that we got Garnett..

Why again do we want another small forward when the Bulls already have Deng and Nocioni? There's nothing right now that points to him being a 4 in the NBA so why not just take Gay with the 2nd pick seeing how he'll probably be the best player to come out of this draft?

 

I agree on the Garnett part but I just hate Thomas. He is smaller than Rudy Gay. Come on.

 

You have allowed ESPN to brainwash you.

Oh where, oh where do you come up with these awesome lines? <_>

[SoxFan1]

Why again do we want another small forward when the Bulls already have Deng and Nocioni? There's nothing right now that points to him being a 4 in the NBA so why not just take Gay with the 2nd pick seeing how he'll probably be the best player to come out of this draft?

Oh where, oh where do you come up with these awesome lines? <_>

I was going to quote you but knowing he doesnt read TalkBulls, I left it out.

Edited June 28, 2006 by SoxFan1

[SoxAce]

I agree on the Garnett part but I just hate Thomas. He is smaller than Rudy Gay. Come on.

 

I'll say it like this. He is 6'8 only 19 years old. Luol Deng when he was drafted was 6'7. Deng grew 2 inches over last summer to get to 6'9 (alot of people forget about that) As a teenager yourself, do you honestly feel that he can't grow another inch or two and put on weight? (I don't know his desire though so I can be wrong about him mentally) When I played baseball my senior year, I weighed 120 pounds and grew 3 inches. I now weigh 155 but have only grown an inch. I'm not saying Tyrus will be able to do it and I'm not defending him at all cause I don't feel he is the best player for this team since we are in a win now type stage and aren't waiting two-four years till he finally is a beast. I'm just saying don't start a riot if he picks Thomas cause for all we know he could trade him, or for all you know we could trade Chandler who I still feel after 5 years and no college experience still can't sniff a jumper and Tyrus has 1 year and can hit a 15-18 footer regularly.

 

I agree on the Garnett part but I just hate Thomas. He is smaller than Rudy Gay. Come on.

 

You have allowed ESPN to brainwash you.

 

Saw a small portion but as soon as they said that Lowry was going to be better than Gay (except Anthony who is the only one I found credible) I just couldn't bear it. I honestly don't feel he'll be the best PG. (Williams will be) I just wish we weren't crowded at the SF spot cause Gay, but Deng IMO, will be better than Gay in 3 years. I'm just saying in THIS DRAFT, Gay will be better than anyone else.

[SoxFan1]

I'll say it like this. He is 6'8 only 19 years old. Luol Deng when he was drafted was 6'7. Deng grew 2 inches over last summer to get to 6'9 (alot of people forget about that) As a teenager yourself, do you honestly feel that he can't grow another inch or two and put on weight? (I don't know his desire though so I can be wrong about him mentally) When I played baseball my senior year, I weighed 120 pounds and grew 3 inches. I now weigh 155 but have only grown an inch. I'm not saying Tyrus will be able to do it and I'm not defending him at all cause I don't feel he is the best player for this team since we are in a win now type stage and aren't waiting two-four years till he finally is a beast. I'm just saying don't start a riot if he picks Thomas cause for all we know he could trade him, or for all you know we could trade Chandler who I still feel after 5 years and no college experience still can't sniff a jumper and Tyrus has 1 year and can hit a 15-18 footer regularly.

We don't have the time to wait on Thomas like a team lile Portland can. We need someone to step in and contribute now, not in 3 years. We are a contender looking to add pieces to the puzzle, not a garbage team look to build around someone who could be good in 3 years.

 

You're right about the growth part. Hopefully, I'll be 6'5 myself by the end of 2006. : fingers crossed :

Edited June 28, 2006 by SoxFan1

[SoxAce]

We don't have the time to wait on Thomas like a team lile Portland can. We need someone to step in and contribute now, not in 3 years. We are a contender looking to add pieces to the puzzle, not a garbage team look to build around someone who could be good in 3 years.

 

That's why I said he wouldn't be the player that would fit the bulls need NOW because of this. He will be a stud though. Bank that. Must I pull a Mr. Oizo on your ass?!

[SoxFan1]

That's why I said he wouldn't be the player that would fit the bulls need NOW because of this. He will be a stud though. Bank that. Must I pull a Mr. Oizo on your ass?!

Well touche.

[DBAHO]

How can Aldridge possibly slip to ten!? If the Celtics pass on him, I'll be one unhappy camper.

They have Boston taking Marcus Williams at #7. Suppose their logic is the Celts need a pure PG, so Delonte West can become the 6th man off the bench.

 

We don't have the time to wait on Thomas like a team lile Portland can. We need someone to step in and contribute now, not in 3 years. We are a contender looking to add pieces to the puzzle, not a garbage team look to build around someone who could be good in 3 years.

I'll dispute that, and I know I'll get flamed for it around here.

 

The Bulls in my mind won't be serious contenders in the East for another season or 2 at least. You'll need guys like Deng to actually hit their prime first. Don't forget that Chicago is still a very young team in terms of guys you have in your starting lineup etc.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

The Bulls in my mind won't be serious contenders in the East for another season or 2 at least. You'll need guys like Deng to actually hit their prime first. Don't forget that Chicago is still a very young team in terms of guys you have in your starting lineup etc.

 

Still no need for tyrus thomas...

[SoxAce]

They have Boston taking Marcus Williams at #7. Suppose their logic is the Celts need a pure PG, so Delonte West can become the 6th man off the bench.

I'll dispute that, and I know I'll get flamed for it around here.

 

The Bulls in my mind won't be serious contenders in the East for another season or 2 at least. You'll need guys like Deng to actually hit their prime first. Don't forget that Chicago is still a very young team in terms of guys you have in your starting lineup etc.

 

I'll go easy on you..

 

But all seriousness what you said is true but you have to remember the East is extremely weak. You can basically compare it to the NL in baseball. It's up to the West to see how much it improves. The Bulls gave serious fits to the now World Champs. Imagine if they have a go to type big man whether it's from a trade (KG, O'Neal, Marion) or the draft. And going back to Deng, this will be his third year so his potential will continue to blossom at only the tender age of 21.

[SoxFan1]

They have Boston taking Marcus Williams at #7. Suppose their logic is the Celts need a pure PG, so Delonte West can become the 6th man off the bench.

I'll dispute that, and I know I'll get flamed for it around here.

 

The Bulls in my mind won't be serious contenders in the East for another season or 2 at least. You'll need guys like Deng to actually hit their prime first. Don't forget that Chicago is still a very young team in terms of guys you have in your starting lineup etc.

I agree with you. 2004-2005 was our best chance but Curry and Deng were injured so we had to try something new. 2005-2006 was a squeaker and the Bulls finished hot and got themselves into the playoffs, where they made a run at the eventual champions.

 

In 2 years, with all the pieces in the puzzle, they will be at their best and become serious contenders to win the Eastern conference. I still expect the Bulls to be in the playoffs for the next 4-5 years, but I think with the right additions 2006-2007 could be very promising for the Bulls. A good draft and some key free agents and we could be be a 4th or 5th seed in the East.

Edited June 28, 2006 by SoxFan1

[SoxAce]

I'll say this, if we get the #1 pick next year (which is a good possibility) and Oden declares.... I can gladly say we'll have a couple of Bulls championships back here in Chicago.