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I love Phil Rogers' selections for the all-city team 95% of the time. But I just wanted to remind everyone that Phil did choose Ryan Dempster over Bobby Jenks on this years team. And that does not even account for the fact that Dempster is making 5 million and Bobby is making 300,000 dollars.

Bobby is just unbelievable.

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QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 10:48 AM)
Jenks is the best closer in the league right now.

How do you figure that? Papelbon and BJ Ryan are both better by far, while Tom Gordon and Trevor Hoffman have been dominant too. Add in Mariano Rivera (along with his track record), and I don't see how you can have Jenks as the best in the bigs.

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Papelbon has 2 blown saves

BJ Ryan has 1

Bobby Jenks has 1

 

i'd take bobby out of those 3 because i am biased and his curve is amazing when its on (see Derek Lee on 7/1) and he throws smoke

 

BJ Ryan didnt give up an earned run all of june (in 13 appearances), which is pretty amazing

Bobby Jenks give up only 1 run all of june (in 14 appearances)

Papelbon gave up 1 earned run in 10 appearances

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QUOTE(lukeman89 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 10:57 AM)
Papelbon has 2 blown saves

BJ Ryan has 1

Bobby Jenks has 1

 

i'd take bobby out of those 3 because i am biased and his curve is amazing when its on (see Derek Lee on 7/1) and he throws smoke

 

BJ Ryan didnt give up an earned run all of june (in 13 appearances), which is pretty amazing

Bobby Jenks give up only 1 run all of june (in 14 appearances)

Papelbon gave up 1 earned run in 10 appearances

 

 

papelbon has a season ERA of .045 with 24 saves

bj ryan has an ERA of .045 with 22 saves

bobby has an era or 2.41 with 25 saves

 

sorry you have to go with papelbon no argument

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QUOTE(lukeman89 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 11:57 AM)
Papelbon has 2 blown saves

BJ Ryan has 1

Bobby Jenks has 1

 

i'd take bobby out of those 3 because i am biased

Thats where the post should end. Bobby is not the best closer in baseball, sorry.

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QUOTE(RX Bandits @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 11:04 AM)
papelbon has a season ERA of .045 with 24 saves

bj ryan has an ERA of .045 with 22 saves

bobby has an era or 2.41 with 25 saves

 

sorry you have to go with papelbon no argument

 

 

B.J. Ryan's WHIP and BAA are slightly lower than Papelbon's, not to mention he has 1 blown save to Papelbon's 2. So contrary to what you posted and what ESPN propogandists report, an argument can be made for Ryan over Papelbon. Either way Jenks is third, at best.

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QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 04:04 AM)
I love Phil Rogers' selections for the all-city team 95% of the time. But I just wanted to remind everyone that Phil did choose Ryan Dempster over Bobby Jenks on this years team. And that does not even account for the fact that Dempster is making 5 million and Bobby is making 300,000 dollars.

Bobby is just unbelievable.

 

To Rogers' defense, he did write this about a month and a half ago, when Dempster still hadn't blown a save and Bobby was still gaining velocity and was less than dominating. I'm pretty sure that if he made his All-city team today, Bobby would be a no-brainer.

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QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 12:20 PM)
To Rogers' defense, he did write this about a month and a half ago, when Dempster still hadn't blown a save and Bobby was still gaining velocity and was less than dominating. I'm pretty sure that if he made his All-city team today, Bobby would be a no-brainer.

 

Exactly...

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QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 12:20 PM)
To Rogers' defense, he did write this about a month and a half ago, when Dempster still hadn't blown a save and Bobby was still gaining velocity and was less than dominating. I'm pretty sure that if he made his All-city team today, Bobby would be a no-brainer.

This is exactly right, at the time the piece was written Dempster was the better closer. Don't let the facts get in the way guys.

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