GoRowand33 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 during the allstar break coop should keep all the pitchers at the cell and make them become good again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I can't believe Zambrano has a sub 3 ERA as tempermental as he is. That's pretty crazy that he is top 6 in ERA in the NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 it sounds ridiculous because we are winning, but still, the starting pitching has just not been impressive. we certainly dont have a santana, liriano 1,2 punch. liriano may never lose a game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) I can't believe Zambrano has a sub 3 ERA as tempermental as he is. That's pretty crazy that he is top 6 in ERA in the NL. It's because he's actually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) I can't believe Zambrano has a sub 3 ERA as tempermental as he is. That's pretty crazy that he is top 6 in ERA in the NL. As of now his ERA is 3.02 Edited July 2, 2006 by sayitaintso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) I can't believe Zambrano has a sub 3 ERA as tempermental as he is. That's pretty crazy that he is top 6 in ERA in the NL. You can be a loon and maintain a sub 3 era when you've got stuff like his. It doesn't hurt that he's in the pathetic NL, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Buehrle isn't tipping his pitches. He's been throwing first pitch fastballs right down the middle (particularly in the 1st inn.) and the Cubs hitters were jumping on them. When a hitter guesses fastball against Buehrle and guesses right, it isn't too hard for him to hit it hard. That's usually what happens when Buehrle gets lit up. That's just the kind of pitcher he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tealeafreaderii Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) they're doing a good job working him (zambrano)... I wouldn't be suprised if Mark ends up lasting longer. Edited July 2, 2006 by tealeafreaderii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) As of now his ERA is 3.02 LOL. Hopefully it won't go bakc under 3 in a couple of innings. He's got awesome stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) it sounds ridiculous because we are winning, but still, the starting pitching has just not been impressive. we certainly dont have a santana, liriano 1,2 punch. liriano may never lose a game again. He's already got 6 k's through 3 innings today. They're up 4-0. Make that 6-0. Looks like I might've been wrong about the Twins. I'm hoping their recent hot-streak is due to interleague play. They looked like s*** before they started feasting on the crappy NL. Edited July 2, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 It would not bother me so much if we lose this game as it would bother me to lose a game to that jack ass Zambrano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) it sounds ridiculous because we are winning, but still, the starting pitching has just not been impressive. we certainly dont have a santana, liriano 1,2 punch. liriano may never lose a game again. Our starters have been so disappointing. Remember how it was supposed to be the best 5-man rotation in baseball history or some s*** like that? Every other aspect of our team has been good to great for most of the year. The rotation has been just s***. A bunch of over-paid, over-hyped pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 for some reason even though were down by 5, it doesn't look that bad to me man are we spoiled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Charge the Mound!! Get to the Cubs Bullpen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) guys, if we can get this back to a three run deficit, we are in their heads enough to make this an easy comeback. I was thinking the same thing. We just need Buehrle to hold em there, and chip away a couple runs of Zambozo, and get to there pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 A run or 2 looks good here-they shot their wad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) for some reason even though were down by 5, it doesn't look that bad to me man are we spoiled Maybe it's because Zambrano has the ability to just fly off the handle and start hanging pitches at the drop of hat. Especially against the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:13 PM) Our starters have been so disappointing. Remember how it was supposed to be the best 5-man rotation in baseball history or some s*** like that? Every other aspect of our team has been good to great for most of the year. The rotation has been just s***. A bunch of over-paid, over-hyped pitchers. And minus Politte it's been the bullpen that's actually been the strong point of the pitching staff, which was something that was a big question mark at the beginning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 no matter what happens this inning, we need to get Zambrano to 70 pitches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) Charge the Mound!! Get to the Cubs Bullpen! Zambrano would just have to sit on Alex to win that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) it sounds ridiculous because we are winning, but still, the starting pitching has just not been impressive. we certainly dont have a santana, liriano 1,2 punch. liriano may never lose a game again. He is awesome, and I'm not trying to sell him short at all, but one reason that he hasn't lost much is because he hasn't pitched to one team in the AL central or AL East yet. In other words, he's pitched against a bunch of really awful offenses. The Twins haven't played anybody good in awhile in general. Just an FYI. Edited July 2, 2006 by jphat007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Here's how our supposedly dominant starting pitching has done against 3 of the worst hitting offenses in the league. 6.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 4 K 5 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 5 BB, 2 K 6 IP, 10 H, 9 ER, 2 BB, 3 K 7 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K 6 IP, 10 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K 5.1 IP, 12 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 4 K 6 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K 6 IP, 11 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 7 K 3 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 0 BB, 8 K (will be updated accordingly) That's pretty damn pathetic. If I'm KW, I sure as hell wouldn't have any loyalty to Vazquez. If Smoltz or Willis are really available in trade, then we should get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) He is awesome, and I'm not trying to sell him short at all, but one reason that he hasn't beaten anybody is because he hasn't pitched to one team in the AL central or AL East yet. In other words, he's pitched against a bunch of really awful offenses. The Twins haven't played anybody good in awhile in general. Just an FYI. neither has anyone in the AL central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Take another Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 01:17 PM) neither has anyone in the AL central Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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