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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 1, 2007 -> 01:10 AM)
Edge looks awful. He looks like he has gained alot of weight, lost muscle tone, and he looks really slow. Is he still hurt from that 20 foot Jeff Hardy ladder drop during Wrestlemania?

He wasn't hurt from that. That was a work. He was hurt before with a broken jaw I believe. Before yesterday he really hadn't had a match in months, other than the WrestleMania match in which he was worked out of.

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QUOTE(The Critic @ May 1, 2007 -> 01:20 AM)
(and how many different title reigns has Vince had by now?)

I was actually curious about this so I looked it up earlier. To my surprise, this is only his second ever title reign, the first he lost the WWE championship a few days after he won it.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:25 PM)
I was actually curious about this so I looked it up earlier. To my surprise, this is only his second ever title reign, the first he lost the WWE championship a few days after he won it.

No tag title reigns? Or Hardcore titles?

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QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:20 PM)
Vince holding any title is an admission of failure to develop believable main-eventers.

Don't get me wrong, I find Vince enjoyable in small doses, but to have the owner hold any of the belts (and how many different title reigns has Vince had by now?) diminishes the entire roster in my opinion.

Lashley is an abject failure as any sort of champion or top-level performer, but is there no one else in ECWWE who can hold the title and have fans buy into it?

It's desperate booking for shock value, and it succeeds short-term but fails in the long run.

Um...Santino Marella anyone?

 

This gimmick is so f***ing stupid.

 

There are others in WWECW to hold the title and have fans to buy it but they won't put the strap on them due to politics etc. I'd love to see an RVD vs CM Punk feud for the title and build Punk up even higher.

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QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:32 PM)
Um...Santino Marella anyone?

 

This gimmick is so f***ing stupid.

 

There are others in WWECW to hold the title and have fans to buy it but they won't put the strap on them due to politics etc. I'd love to see an RVD vs CM Punk feud for the title and build Punk up even higher.

Well, the RVD Job-A-Thon is most likely underway since he rejected a contract extension, so I doubt he'll sniff a title match unless it's to get destroyed.

 

Hillbilly Jim + title belt = Santino Marella.

 

And the politics just adds to my point - Vince is more interested in holding people "in their place" than he is in building a product that fans can really enjoy. It's really awful, and it's the main reason I'm hoping (but not expecting) that TNA can build something strong enough to spark the competitive side of Vince.

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QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:39 PM)
Well, the RVD Job-A-Thon is most likely underway since he rejected a contract extension, so I doubt he'll sniff a title match unless it's to get destroyed.

 

Hillbilly Jim + title belt = Santino Marella.

 

And the politics just adds to my point - Vince is more interested in holding people "in their place" than he is in building a product that fans can really enjoy. It's really awful, and it's the main reason I'm hoping (but not expecting) that TNA can build something strong enough to spark the competitive side of Vince.

June 23, try to get out to Chicago Ridge for the ROH show.

 

Bryan Danielson vs KENTA has been announced for the show already. Damn good wrestling that is really easy to get behind.

 

/turns off Raw to go watch the Windy City Death Match from the ROH FYF show in Chicago.

 

Cade and Murdoch need the tag belts. I am getting strangely addicted to the team. Plus, they have damn good athleticism.

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QUOTE(Brian @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 07:22 PM)
I'm gonna get flamed for this, but Vince McMahon gives the ECW title more credibility than Shane Douglas ever gave it. Shane was so overrated and couldn't get over unless he swore up a storm. Vince doesn't needs to swear and has more ring psychology than most guys these days. I don't expect him to hold it for long, but I don't think it is as big a deal as everyone makes it.

This isn't the ECW of the mid 90's.

 

re: bold -- you've got that right. Not much else.

 

This is the most ridiculous angle. McMahon as champion? There's absolutely no reason for that.

And I'm not a big Douglas fan but his angle with Heyman and the NWA is one of the great coups in wrestling history. It was a damn good speech and a damn good way to start a company rolling.

 

You've got to be kidding me. McMahon hasn't been particularly good since Stone Cold left and back then it was mainly Stone Cold who made it worth it. Vince is fine in small doses. No more.

 

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As far as Van Dam, McMahon has every right and damn good reason to bury departing wrestlers. At least, he used to when they might leave for competition that COULD destroy him. What he doesn't have to do is bury people as soon as they come in, as he did to RVD from the beginning.

 

Shame.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 09:44 PM)
MISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR KENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY....

Kennedy to cash in at Wrestlemania. Utterly awesome.

 

Sounds stupid to have the announcement now.

What if he gets hurt?

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 09:44 PM)
MISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR KENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY....

Kennedy to cash in at Wrestlemania. Utterly awesome.

 

This made RAW worth watchin'

 

and just like that, it was made crappy...let's hope theres no Cena/Khali angle now...

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If Cena ever can give Khali an FU I will be seriously impressed. The guy is so big, I cant imagine the strength it would take Cena to whip him over his shoulders. Khali gave Cena quite the elbow to the jaw.

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QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:32 PM)
Um...Santino Marella anyone?

 

This gimmick is so f***ing stupid.

 

There are others in WWECW to hold the title and have fans to buy it but they won't put the strap on them due to politics etc. I'd love to see an RVD vs CM Punk feud for the title and build Punk up even higher.

 

They're too busy pitting CM Punk against the New Breed...

 

anyway, to the ROH fanatics out there, i'm thinking about goin to the show on 6/23...i've seen the Dedicated and Battle of the Icons shows from the beginning of the year, so is there any show or matches that are a must see? Or anything else I should know ROH-wise?

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Why do they push stiffs like Khali? I just don't get it. At least Big Show could work in the ring.

 

Match wise, Raw was good tonight. Edge/Orton was awesome and RVD vs. Umaga was entertaining.

 

Love Kennedy getting a title shot at next years WrestleMania. Dare anyone to put it in their sig and update the countdown daily!

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QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 10:11 PM)
anyway, to the ROH fanatics out there, i'm thinking about goin to the show on 6/23...i've seen the Dedicated and Battle of the Icons shows from the beginning of the year, so is there any show or matches that are a must see? Or anything else I should know ROH-wise?

Glory By Honor V Night 2 and the Supercard of Honor with the Blood Generation vs Do Fixer match. If you like hardcore wrestling, then Death Before Dishonor IV for the CZW/ROH Cage of Death feud finisher.

 

The Windy City Death Match between Cabana and Jacobs from FYF: Chicago as well. Those are just a few that came to me off the top of my head.

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