Brian Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 This thread come full circle. It originally started with RVD and Sabu getting pulled over with pot and stuff and right now, they are both gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Gregory Helms out for a year with some sort of neck fusion surgery. I'm gonna hope they bring him back as the Hurricane. That was one of the better gimmicks of the last few years, much better than his current gimmick of "man with leather vest." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 18, 2007 -> 02:06 PM) Gregory Helms out for a year with some sort of neck fusion surgery. I'm gonna hope they bring him back as the Hurricane. That was one of the better gimmicks of the last few years, much better than his current gimmick of "man with leather vest." That's unfortunate. He has come a long way since the "3 Count" days. You're right, he is not big enough to pull off the tough guy heel image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ May 18, 2007 -> 03:20 PM) That's unfortunate. He has come a long way since the "3 Count" days. You're right, he is not big enough to pull off the tough guy heel image. For me, it's not that he's not big enough. It's that he doesn't have a gimmick. Basically no singles wrestler has a good gimmick anymore. The Hurricane gimmick was easily one of the best in recent years, and they dropped it to put a vest on Helms and make him cocky. Ooh, wow that's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Scotty 2 Hotty, Spirit Squad Mikey, and ARIEL all released. I liked Ariel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ May 18, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) Scotty 2 Hotty, Spirit Squad Mikey, and ARIEL all released. I liked Ariel. The Scotty 2 Hotty release is about 4 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ May 18, 2007 -> 04:08 PM) The Scotty 2 Hotty release is about 4 years too late. I hear that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:48 AM) Scotty 2 Hotty, Spirit Squad Mikey, and ARIEL all released. I liked Ariel. As did I, at least she had personality. Probably pissed off Stephanie somehow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 19, 2007 -> 07:19 AM) As did I, at least she had personality. Probably pissed off Stephanie somehow though. Well, this may help explain the recent releases: I read that Stephy got a promotion and 30,000 stock options, 20,000 of which she can cash in immediately if she wants to. At $80 per share, that's basically a bonus of $1,600,000. I don't know what she did to earn any of that, other than being a member of the Lucky Sperm Club, but they need to pay for that somehow, so why not release a bunch of people to line the kid's pockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I thought S2H would be a lifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 HBK blew out his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 per PW Insider Sabu has had a long history of behavioral problems backstage in WWE which lead some observers to believe that he really did not enjoy working for the company. Prior to his firing Tuesday, he had in fact failed a wellness test and rather than being suspended he was punished by having to wrestle without pay and only put other people over. There was also an incident at the airport en route to the ECW tapings where Sabu was detained by airport security after they checked his luggage. He was not very happy about them searching his luggage and caused a big scene at the airport, which delayed his arrival to the tapings by several hours. When he finally arrived at the ECW tapings he was instructed that he would go out and put over Kevin Thorne. Sabu claimed he couldn’t do it due to a neck injury that had been bothering him over the weekend. This was the last straw for WWE and they made the decision to release him right there. When friends of his asked him why he was behaving like this and acting like he wanted to be fired, he pretty much said that he didn’t want to be with the company anymore and had been unhappy for a while. HBK is crazy to try and work on his blown out knee...but this is another hit for the E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ May 19, 2007 -> 08:20 PM) HBK is crazy to try and work on his blown out knee...but this is another hit for the E For all his faults, HBK is a hard worker and a good performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:31 AM) For all his faults, HBK is a hard worker and a GREAT performer. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ May 20, 2007 -> 12:32 PM) Fixed. Re-break it, please. I stand by "good". I find him entertaining, but I've never had that "can't-miss" feeling about his matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ May 20, 2007 -> 12:47 PM) Re-break it, please. I stand by "good". I find him entertaining, but I've never had that "can't-miss" feeling about his matches. Watch it, or I will wish you well in future endeavors from Soxtalk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 HBK is the best in the history of the bussiness. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 20, 2007 -> 03:25 PM) HBK is the best in the history of the bussiness. FACT Agreed. An HBK/Flair match with both guys in their prime would of been classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 20, 2007 -> 03:25 PM) HBK is the best in the history of the bussiness. FACT Danielson > HBK. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Bret Hart > HBK. Lots of people are > HBK. Michaels is excellent, by all means, but I know a lot of people I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 20, 2007 -> 07:16 PM) Danielson > HBK. FACT. god I cannot wait until Kenta/Dragon 2 in a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 20, 2007 -> 07:16 PM) Danielson > HBK. FACT. HBK in his prime, not now, was better than anyone else every will be. He carried guy after guy to great matches. Let me know when Danielson works a match in front of more than a few thousand people that isn't a WWE jobber match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 tickets for ROH on 6/23 are 20% off at rohwrestling.com in case anyone's interested the GA seats there are very good for the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Your winner and new US champion, MVP. Ballin'! HBK in his prime was not better than Hart, Hennig, Piper, Jake Roberts, HTM, etc. HBK in his prime was a good, not great -- a good in-ring talent but he doesn't hold a candle to matches like the SummerSlam Henning/Hart bout or th WM 12 submission match. And just because the match takes place in a smaller arena, doesn't mean that the match is any less awesome. Punk v.s. Joe trilogy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 21, 2007 -> 05:59 AM) Your winner and new US champion, MVP. Ballin'! HBK in his prime was not better than Hart, Hennig, Piper, Jake Roberts, HTM, etc. HBK in his prime was a good, not great -- a good in-ring talent but he doesn't hold a candle to matches like the SummerSlam Henning/Hart bout or th WM 12 submission match. And just because the match takes place in a smaller arena, doesn't mean that the match is any less awesome. Punk v.s. Joe trilogy, etc. HBK carried guys to great matches that I am not so sure other guys could have. Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jarrett, Sid Vicious, Taker, Vader, Jannetty, Bulldog. I would never discredit the Hart/Hennig match and the WM 13 submission match, but those were also great wrestlers in those matches. When you have less people see certain matches, you don't have enough people to judge it to say it was the greatest match ever. While I am sure ROH puts on some good matches, its hard to say they are the greatest because not as many people see them. I'd love to go to an ROH show in Chicago sometime but can't cuz I work Sat nights. Maybe if I saw some, I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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