southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/0...sile/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Yeah not good, not good at all. Let's just say the Aussies weren't too happy with the situation at all, and let the North Korean Diplomat to Australia know all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 China has to be pissed too. They warned NK not to launch those missles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 Russia is going to be pissed too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:55 AM) Russia is going to be pissed too... He said the first missile was launched at about 3:30 a.m. today local time (2:30 p.m. EDT yesterday). If the timing is correct, the North Korean missiles were launched within minutes of yesterday's liftoff of Discovery, which blasted into orbit from Cape Canaveral, Fla., in the first U.S. space shuttle launch in a year. Normally, when missile or space launches are carried out, the governments conducting the tests will issue international notices to airmen and mariners to avoid ocean and airspace where the tests are to be conducted. But North Korea does not follow the same missile-testing protocols as the United States or other nations. They are looking to piss people off in ALL departments in one shot, eh? Edited July 5, 2006 by RibbieRubarb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 07:21 AM) Yeah not good, not good at all. Let's just say the Aussies weren't too happy with the situation at all, and let the North Korean Diplomat to Australia know all about it. I read in The Australian that Burma has also been forging an alliance with North Korea. What a mess. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...419-601,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) I read in The Australian that Burma has also been forging an alliance with North Korea. What a mess. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...419-601,00.html Isn't it myanmar now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(AbeFroman @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 04:47 PM) Isn't it myanmar now? I think they're pretty much used interchangeably now. I believe it was the military dictator who changed the name to Myanmar so that might have not been the will of the people. But I really don't know. Kramer and Jerry are probably still trying to figure that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Myannmar is the original name of the island I think. Burma is the colonial name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 05:04 PM) Myannmar is the original name of the island I think. Burma is the colonial name. But Myanmar's not an island... You're probably right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm thinking of Sri Lanka/Ceylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Explanation of the names of Burma/Myanmar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanation_o...f_Burma/Myanmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) we should assassinate kim il dong edit: no, i didnt misspell Edited July 6, 2006 by samclemens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Japanese Report: N. Korea missile aimed at area off Hawaii http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060707/3/2mty8.html the plot thickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 What I love about this story is at the end when they explain the possibilities. 1. North Korea wanted to show they could hit US targets by aiming close to Hawaii. 2. North Korea wanted to show they could hit the Pacific Fleet. 3. North Korea wanted to make sure they would just hit water, and not land - like if they aimed it towards Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 06:53 AM) What I love about this story is at the end when they explain the possibilities. 1. North Korea wanted to show they could hit US targets by aiming close to Hawaii. 2. North Korea wanted to show they could hit the Pacific Fleet. 3. North Korea wanted to make sure they would just hit water, and not land - like if they aimed it towards Alaska. One thing is pretty clear... NK hasn't had the money to adequately fund the missle portion of their nuclear program. For myself I don't think NK would use it offensively, but was does scare me is the HUGE desparation for cash that they have, and them selling the technology to someone who would use it, such as an OBL led Al Qaeda or a spliter group with the same kind of ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Our worry for nuclear proliferation lies with Pakistan. N. Korea got their technology from AQ Khan who ran the Pakistani nuclear program, then went and sold technology to Iran and N Korea. Currently being protected by the Pakistani government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Let me throw this in the mix. NK doesn't take a s*** without China's blessing. Think about it. NK is a China puppet state. Period. /carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) Our worry for nuclear proliferation lies with Pakistan. N. Korea got their technology from AQ Khan who ran the Pakistani nuclear program, then went and sold technology to Iran and N Korea. Currently being protected by the Pakistani government. Why do you think we have worked so hard to get into Pakistans government? I have no doubts NK is on the market right now trying to sell their nuclear stuff to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) Let me throw this in the mix. NK doesn't take a s*** without China's blessing. Think about it. NK is a China puppet state. Period. /carry on I'd say NK is more like a wild dog on China's farm. The dog will do all kinds of crazy s***, but is still scared to death of China. I don't think China wags NK as a puppet state, though. At most, China probably smirks at NK's act, when it suits them in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I saw an amusing e-mail today, that had Kim Jong attached to the front of a rocket on the front cover of The Economist with the heading, "Rocket Man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 10:52 AM) Why do you think we have worked so hard to get into Pakistans government? I have no doubts NK is on the market right now trying to sell their nuclear stuff to the highest bidder. It hasn't worked. To get into details, we captured AQ Khan - the President even made a big deal in the election two years ago about it. Then we gave him back to Pakistan. We aren't able to speak to him, question him or pump him for information in any way. And he isn't imprisoned as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 09:58 AM) It hasn't worked. To get into details, we captured AQ Khan - the President even made a big deal in the election two years ago about it. Then we gave him back to Pakistan. We aren't able to speak to him, question him or pump him for information in any way. And he isn't imprisoned as far as I know. Of course it hasn't worked, which is presisely why we need to be making sure that the spread of nuclear capabilities doesn't happen. Talking about it hasn't worked at all, because it keeps ending up where we don't want to see it go, and into evermore dangerous hands. Very soon, someone is going to be attacked with a nuclear weapon, and then the finger pointing begins as to why they got ahold of this stuff in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) Let me throw this in the mix. NK doesn't take a s*** without China's blessing. Think about it. NK is a China puppet state. Period. /carry on My impression was that China wanted North Korea to survive so it would be one more distraction to keep the Americans from paying attention to Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:52 AM) My impression was that China wanted North Korea to survive so it would be one more distraction to keep the Americans from paying attention to Taiwan. That's part of it. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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