iguchi=dank Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Manny saying his knee is hurt and he has missed 2 other All Star games since 2000, So if this turns out to be true do you think Ozzie sticks to what he said about Crede or do you think he will take another outfielder like Maggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 It goes in line with what Ozzie said (although contradicts what he said about Crede) OAKLAND, Calif. -- White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen apparently has made up with Tigers right fielder Magglio Ordonez. Guillen and Ordonez had a verbal feud going on in 2005 -- a one-man spat initiated and fought by Guillen -- that has since been patched up. So harmonious is the new relationship that Guillen said Monday he would name Ordonez to the 2006 All-Star Game should an American League outfielder be lost to injury between now and the July 11 game in Pittsburgh. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../607040385/1004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:11 AM) It goes in line with what Ozzie said (although contradicts what he said about Crede) http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../607040385/1004 So, one way or another, he'd be lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:17 AM) So, one way or another, he'd be lying? Ozzie doesnt have 100% say in who and what comes to the Allstar game. He has to replace like players/with like players. You would love to replace a 3rd baseman for the OF, however he needs to replace a like fielder/ with a like fielder. So magglio goes. I dont see the problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick0984 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 well he\'s already been criticized for taking 6. I mean, I love our team and think they should all go, but it does look a little odd that the team with the most representatives is the same as the manager and then taking one more :-/ as much as i want crede to go, i can\'t imagine that doesn\'t enter his thinking. [green] although, it is ozzie, and he\'s never given a s*** about what people think AND we are the raining world champions so we do have 1 or 2 good players. [/green] (i\'m at work and the formatting here is always messed up, i doubt it\'ll show green since it always adds the /\'s and i look like a bumbling idiot, so i shall do the figurative green, muaha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:23 AM) well he\'s already been criticized for taking 6. I mean, I love our team and think they should all go, but it does look a little odd that the team with the most representatives is the same as the manager and then taking one more :-/ as much as i want crede to go, i can\'t imagine that doesn\'t enter his thinking. [green] although, it is ozzie, and he\'s never given a s*** about what people think AND we are the raining world champions so we do have 1 or 2 good players. [/green] (i\'m at work and the formatting here is always messed up, i doubt it\'ll show green since it always adds the /\'s and i look like a bumbling idiot, so i shall do the figurative green, muaha) Which is bulls***, because out of those 6 players, guess how many Guillen ACTUALLY picked. One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:26 AM) Which is bulls***, because out of those 6 players, guess how many Guillen ACTUALLY picked. One. Was it one? I thought he picked Jenks, Buehrle and Konerko. Contreras, Thome & Dye were voted in by the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:33 AM) Was it one? I thought he picked Jenks, Buehrle and Konerko. Contreras, Thome & Dye were voted in by the players. That's what I had heard also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:26 AM) Which is bulls***, because out of those 6 players, guess how many Guillen ACTUALLY picked. One. Or three... QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:33 AM) Was it one? I thought he picked Jenks, Buehrle and Konerko. Contreras, Thome & Dye were voted in by the players. Ah.. bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:38 AM) Or three... Ah.. bastard All that chlorine in your head made ya slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:40 AM) All that chlorine in your head made ya slow. You know it. I didn't move more than 20 feet from it from 8am to 6pm yesterday. I'm a lobster today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) You know it. I didn't move more than 20 feet from it from 8am to 6pm yesterday. I'm a lobster today. Jim stocking up on butter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:23 AM) well he\'s already been criticized for taking 6. I mean, I love our team and think they should all go, but it does look a little odd that the team with the most representatives is the same as the manager and then taking one more :-/ as much as i want crede to go, i can\'t imagine that doesn\'t enter his thinking. [green] although, it is ozzie, and he\'s never given a s*** about what people think AND we are the raining world champions so we do have 1 or 2 good players. [/green] (i\'m at work and the formatting here is always messed up, i doubt it\'ll show green since it always adds the /\'s and i look like a bumbling idiot, so i shall do the figurative green, muaha) Yeah, cause Joe Torre never loaded the team with Yankees. Ozzie gets the ability to do what he wants...so f*** everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:17 AM) So, one way or another, he'd be lying? Isn't Alex Rios on the DL too with that leg infection. That makes two open spots if this is the case. No Manny and no Rios would mean two new players, I think at least one has to be an outfielder so that our team has enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(joeynach @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 11:20 AM) Isn't Alex Rios on the DL too with that leg infection. That makes two open spots if this is the case. No Manny and no Rios would mean two new players, I think at least one has to be an outfielder so that our team has enough. He was replaced by Gary Matthews Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) If Ozzie is going to name Crede as a replacement, he should wait until this AJ voting ends. AJ is going to need votes from non-White Sox fans. Another White Sox on the team would probably hurt his chances just because a lot of people will think the Sox have too many players on the team as it is. AJ has a tough road to win this vote as it is, considering his lack of popularity around the league. If he wins, nobody should ever question White Sox fans loyalty and determination ever again. As far as naming Maggs, maybe the sensitivity training worked. Edited July 5, 2006 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojimthome Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ozzie chose TWO players; Buehrle and Jenks. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...r2006&fext=.jsp Players' selections include Jose Contreras, the right-hander closing in on an undefeated year, Paul Konerko, Jim Thome and Jermaine Dye. I also read somewhere on Monday that if an infielder went down, Crede gets to go...But that Magglio was the OF replacement. Can't find that article now, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Contreras @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 11:43 AM) Ozzie chose TWO players; Buehrle and Jenks. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...r2006&fext=.jsp I also read somewhere on Monday that if an infielder went down, Crede gets to go...But that Magglio was the OF replacement. Can't find that article now, though. Ozzie chose 3 players. I'd take Scott Reifert's word over MLB.com's So, really, Ozzie had three picks of his own and used them on Konerko, Jenks and Buehrle. http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/inside_th...y_and_the_.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty99 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 10:46 AM) Ozzie chose 3 players. I'd take Scott Reifert's word over MLB.com's http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/inside_th...y_and_the_.html Absolutely agree with you. The players selected Thome for the first base spot which leaves Ozzie to choose Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 10:35 AM) If Ozzie is going to name Crede as a replacement, he should wait until this AJ voting ends. AJ is going to need votes from non-White Sox fans. Another White Sox on the team would probably hurt his chances just because a lot of people will think the Sox have too many players on the team as it is. AJ has a tough road to win this vote as it is, considering his lack of popularity around the league. If he wins, nobody should ever question White Sox fans loyalty and determination ever again. As far as naming Maggs, maybe the sensitivity training worked. There is no way AJ gets voted in. The best all around player in this vote is Liriano but he wont go becuase no one in Minny will do enough to get him in. Apparently Mark Loretta is a stud which i guess the entire league and GM missed out on and oh yeah Varitek and his awsome .240 avg were a stepping stone away from getting voting in. Im surprised Willie Harris didn't get voted in by the red sox fan retards. Seriously though, AJ deserves to go he is having an all star year and better than the one he had in 2002 when he was an all star with a .300 Avg, 6 homers and 39 rbi. He is gonna blow past those numbers this year. Edited July 5, 2006 by joeynach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(joeynach @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 12:11 PM) There is no way AJ gets voted in. The best all around player in this vote is Liriano but he wont go becuase no one in Minny will do enough to get him in. Most likely schilling will go becuase everyone in MA, RI, NH, and VT apparently have nothing to do but vote hundreds of times for anyone in a red sox uniform. Apparently Mark Loretta is a stud which i guess the entire league and GM missed out on and oh yeah Varitek and his awsome .240 avg were a stepping stone away from getting voting in. Im surprised Willie Harris didn't get voted in by the red sox fan retards. Seriously though, AJ deserves to go he is having an all star year and better than the one he had in 2002 when he was an all star with a .300 Avg, 6 homers and 39 rbi. He is gonna blow past those numbers this year. But its too bad becuase anyone wearing a red sox uniform will win in any fan voting ballot situation so Schilling is your winner, GAURANTEED!! That'll be pretty tough since Schilling isn't even on the ballot. Oh, and Liriano (the one with no support) is leading the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 And the funny Keith Law has an ESPN chat going on right now. Josh:( DeKalb,Il): I think that Joe Crede was an All-Star snub. Do you agree? Keith Law: (1:11 PM ET ) No, although Ozzie Guillen has made it clear that he's going to put Crede on the team, even if he has to lock A-Rod in a stall in the clubhouse bathroom to do it. I think it's time to stop letting the managers pick the extra players. This is the All-Star Game, not the White Sox vs. the NL. Todd (Boston): Keith, where's the outrage over naming Mark Buerhle to the All-Star team? Schilling, Mussina, and Liriano are all doing way better this year, and have more appeal anyway. Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) I think because Buerhle has some track record, people aren't as up in arms over him making the team despite the fact that he's not having an All-Star year. But yes, all three guys you named would have been better choices. I'm surprised Schilling didn't make it, since he's having a great year, has been there before, and is a well-known name. I cant wait until Neyers chat later today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 12:21 PM) That'll be pretty tough since Schilling isn't even on the ballot. Oh, and Liriano (the one with no support) is leading the vote. There ya go bringing facts into a discussion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 QUOTE(joeynach @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 05:11 PM) Most likely schilling will go becuase everyone in MA, RI, NH, and VT apparently have nothing to do but vote hundreds of times for anyone in a red sox uniform. Apparently Mark Loretta is a stud which i guess the entire league and GM missed out on and oh yeah Varitek and his awsome .240 avg were a stepping stone away from getting voting in. Im surprised Willie Harris didn't get voted in by the red sox fan retards. Jealousy: It's a motherf***er I'll bet that you voted for AJ a bunch of times, yeah? If so, then the same s*** that you're talking (ie "nothing better to do") about Red Sox fans also applies to you. If you're a fan of a particular team, you vote for the players of that particular team, unless, of course, we're talking about wack-ass Scotty Pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Surprised that Corey Petterson wasn't picked over Maggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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