Sox "Dynasty"?

[chitownsportsfan]

I think you'll mostly enjoy this guys. The author lays out a roadmap for the Sox in their attempt to become a dynasty. I disagreed with a few points (On Owens chances especially), but mostly he's done his homework on the Sox, like the moves KW has made, and is spot on with who needs to come and go in the next few years.

 

Are the Sox the next baseball Dynasty?

[Milkman delivers]

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[TitoMB345]

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Hahaha. Unfortunately, the time has passed.

 

GREAT READ! He has a very unbiased view of the team it seems, and he is very intelligent. KUDOS!

[chisoxt]

Hahaha. Unfortunately, the time has passed.

 

GREAT READ! He has a very unbiased view of the team it seems, and he is very intelligent. KUDOS!

 

I agree. I also liked the comments written by the readers. While I am enjoying the current run of the White Sox, I don't necessarily see a dynasty. It is too difficult to maintain that high a level for such a long period of time. You are either trading your better prospects to gett better now, and/or, you are not drafting very high either.

[zygoat]

yeah i was thinking about what pods is giogn to do, and we do need bullpen help

 

great read

[Heads22]

Solid article.

[DBAHO]

I enjoyed reading that article at work today. Makes me happy that some of these guys at sites like these are taking more notice of us and seeing what we could do in the future.

 

There's no question if things work out right, this team could be a perenial playoff contender for the next decade. But like the article said, and what I've have stressed on numerous occasions before, we need to keep these young players coming through. Having BA and B-Mac on these team offered so much more in terms of payroll flexibility, that it allowed for KW to go after the likes of Thome (which has majorly paid off) and Vazquez (not as much). It's absolutely crucial that within the next 5 seasons, Josh Fields and Ryan Sweeney whether it's at 3B or LF for Fields or anywhere in the OF for Sweeney become part of the core of this ballclub.

 

We don't want to become like the Yankees anytime soon, because we've all seen first-hand what happens with you have to make up the core of your team with high priced FA's and not been able to develop any young players whatsoever.

 

We need the likes of Lumsden to make our rotation in the future, and for us to keep drafting and developing prospects, so that it allows for KW to be able to make these trades which he's become pretty good at over the past couple of seasons.

[RME JICO]

I enjoyed reading that article at work today. Makes me happy that some of these guys at sites like these are taking more notice of us and seeing what we could do in the future.

 

There's no question if things work out right, this team could be a perenial playoff contender for the next decade. But like the article said, and what I've have stressed on numerous occasions before, we need to keep these young players coming through. Having BA and B-Mac on these team offered so much more in terms of payroll flexibility, that it allowed for KW to go after the likes of Thome (which has majorly paid off) and Vazquez (not as much). It's absolutely crucial that within the next 5 seasons, Josh Fields and Ryan Sweeney whether it's at 3B or LF for Fields or anywhere in the OF for Sweeney become part of the core of this ballclub.

 

We don't want to become like the Yankees anytime soon, because we've all seen first-hand what happens with you have to make up the core of your team with high priced FA's and not been able to develop any young players whatsoever.

 

We need the likes of Lumsden to make our rotation in the future, and for us to keep drafting and developing prospects, so that it allows for KW to be able to make these trades which he's become pretty good at over the past couple of seasons.

 

I agree. The Sox need to work some of the farm system into the plan each year. Otherwise the team will get to the point where there is a huge drop off in the talent pool or payroll that one offseason cannot correct. Then you end up like the Yankees with ageing pricey veterans, a huge payroll, and a suspect farm system.

 

The best moves by KW seem to be the little ones lately. Riske for Lopez, Cintron for Baj, Thornton for Borch. Add those to the bigger moves like Thome, Vazquez, and Mackowiak, coupled with the addition of the farm system (Anderson and McCarthy), and you have a formula for success.

[SpringfieldFan]

A dynasty for the Sox? I don't know if it will happen, but there is one thing about Chicago teams. It takes them a while to finally achieve championships, but once they do they establish themselves with authority. They Bulls of course became a dynasty and the Bears, although they only won one Super Bowl, they did it with a team that was arguably the best team in NFL history. Both of those teams swept through the playoffs and once they got to the finals there was no 2nd place - and no doubt about their championships. It was the same with the Sox last year and who knows, considering this 2006 run, perhaps they can mimic the Bulls these next few seasons :rolly

 

SFF

Edited July 7, 2006 by SpringfieldFan

[Zoogz]

I agree. The Sox need to work some of the farm system into the plan each year. Otherwise the team will get to the point where there is a huge drop off in the talent pool or payroll that one offseason cannot correct. Then you end up like the Yankees with ageing pricey veterans, a huge payroll, and a suspect farm system.

 

I don't want to be overly disputational, but I did at least want to say that the Yankees did manage to maintain a dynasty with acquired "stars" of Jeter, Bernie Williams, Leyritz, Brosius, Soriano, and others. They did have mercenaries like Tino Martinez, Clemens, Cone, Knoblauch, and a few others, but when the Yankees started winning it was with shrewd investment. And even though the Yankees franchise has gone to super-spending mode in recent history, they are still working on a postseason streak that started back in 1995.

 

The Yankees' payroll when they won the WS the last time was $92M (2000: see Baseball Almanac). This number was at the time the largest payroll in the league. But others spent almost as much; for instance, the Atlanta Braves spent $84M that very same year. It has been only the past three or so years that the Yankees found out that they can cover up mistakes with more money, something that not too many other clubs in MLB can do.

 

Eleven playoff appearances, seven pennants, and four WS victories in the last eleven years is definitely something that I would love to emulate and consider a dynasty. Now though the biggest problem for the rest of MLB is that the Yankees' current "successes" are pretty difficult to swallow in terms of salary obligations. Once upon a time though they really did build a winner by smart drafting, smart signing, and smart trading. And it was not until the last three years or so that they have had to turn to the "200 Million Dollar" model.

 

Sorry to bring this off-topic, but while I really hate the Yankees (and all their success), I also want to make sure that the record is straight that at one point, their whole team was not made up of overpaid (and old) mercenaries, and it was an organization that many in the league really should have thought about trying to copy.

[YASNY]

I agree. I also liked the comments written by the readers. While I am enjoying the current run of the White Sox, I don't necessarily see a dynasty. It is too difficult to maintain that high a level for such a long period of time. You are either trading your better prospects to gett better now, and/or, you are not drafting very high either.

 

The comments by the readers were most impressive. They seemed to be well thought out, in general, and no one was flaming anyone else. I'd love to more of that, and less of the contentiousness here at Soxtalk.