Reddy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:18 PM) Aaron Heilman? Sanchez? He would get rocked in the AL. Milledge? Nice prospect. Doesn't do jack for us this year and maybe next. sanchez is stud, and, granted milledge may not help much this year. he's s***LOADS better than BA right NOW and has the potential to be a perennial all-star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) milledge may not help much this year. he's s***LOADS better than BA right NOW and has the potential to be a perennial all-star You know this how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:22 PM) You know this how? The same way you KNOW that Sanchez would suck in the AL I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:00 PM) How are you gonna tell a guy before the season starts that's he's gonna be in the 'pen, then mid-season throw him into the rotation when he's just now finally starting to adjust to his role? Ask Fransisco Liriano how he handled that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:22 PM) The same way you KNOW that Sanchez would suck in the AL I guess. Try again Kalpse. I've seen you say the same thing about 15 other NL pitchers this year alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I would be extremely pissed if he trade Freddy. I am willing to part with Javy if the deal is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Try again Kalpse. I've seen you say the same thing about 15 other NL pitchers this year alone. Give me a few names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) sanchez is stud, and, granted milledge may not help much this year. he's s***LOADS better than BA right NOW and has the potential to be a perennial all-star Milledge of the .283 OBP? s***loads, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(iamshack @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) Milledge of the .283 OBP? s***loads, huh? He walked 4 times in 94 plate appearances and displayed suspect defense in the outfield, I guess the 3 HRs in 85 ABs makes him better than Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I absolutely hate Javier Vazquez, but I would trade Garcia first if I had the chance. Garcia is going to get much worse this year, and he's on the downswing of his career. At least with Vazquez, he still has the stuff to possibly put in a good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:23 PM) Ask Fransisco Liriano how he handled that. Liriano made his first start on May 19th. So that's not excactly mid-season. And, unlike Liriano, McCarthy has been average at best out of the bullpen. So we're just gonna assume B-mac does what he did at the end of last year if we just throw him into the rotation? That's pretty unrealistic. I realize his long-term future is as a starter. I just don't think he should be one in '06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:27 PM) He walked 4 times in 94 plate appearances and displayed suspect defense in the outfield, I guess the 3 HRs in 85 ABs makes him better than Anderson. Maybe it's the sweet hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) Give me a few names. I didn't memorize the names. It wasn't that imporant to me. I just know you have. You know you have as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 03:08 PM) Quality starts stats are the most BS stats there are. I think they are BS in comparing pitchers with each other, ie. Halladay and Garcia both have 10 QS in 18 games started, but I don't think they are BS wrt what that player does for a particular team. I don't care if it takes 11 htis and 4 walks to let up 3ER or less in 6 or more IP, as long as we get that result for the team. Freddy hasn't been great, nor has he pitched up to his capabilities or the money he earns, but he hasn't been awful either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 vs AL in 2006 Heilman 11.0 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 5 BB, 9 K, 4.90 ERA, 1.18 WHIP Sanchez 6.0 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 4.50 ERA, 1.67 WHIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) I didn't memorize the names. It wasn't that imporant to me. I just know you have. You know you have as well. This is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Comparing Liriano to ANYONE else makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:22 PM) You know this how? like i've said before - bro's a mets fan, i hear almost as much about them as i do about the sox (hyperbole) milledge is a five tool guy who's ranked #13 overall right now as far as prospects go. sure he wasnt amazing in his time up this year - but 12 ribbies, 3 homers, 2 doubles and 3 triples just goes to show what he is capable of. (and in any case even his .233 average is better than BA's) EDIT: oh and he's just turned 21 Edited July 14, 2006 by Reddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojimthome Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(iamshack @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) Funny, on another board I just saw a Mariners' fan propose this deal: Garcia for Reed, Soriano, and Everett. Soriano is a stud...And Baseball Prospectus told me that Reed is teh bestest prospect EVAR!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:35 PM) like i've said before - bro's a mets fan, i hear almost as much about them as i do about the sox (hyperbole) milledge is a five tool guy who's ranked #13 overall right now as far as prospects go. sure he wasnt amazing in his time up this year - but 12 ribbies, 3 homers, 2 doubles and 3 triples just goes to show what he is capable of. (and in any case even his .233 average is better than BA's) How many tools does Anderson have again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) vs AL in 2006 Heilman 11.0 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 5 BB, 9 K, 4.90 ERA, 1.18 WHIP Sanchez 6.0 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 4.50 ERA, 1.67 WHIP two words come to mind. SAMPLE SIZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:35 PM) like i've said before - bro's a mets fan, i hear almost as much about them as i do about the sox (hyperbole) milledge is a five tool guy who's ranked #13 overall right now as far as prospects go. sure he wasnt amazing in his time up this year - but 12 ribbies, 3 homers, 2 doubles and 3 triples just goes to show what he is capable of. (and in any case even his .233 average is better than BA's) That does not make him better than Anderson right now. He may have a much higher upside than Anderson but as of right now, I don't see how you can say Milledge and his 4 walks are "s***loads" better than BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojimthome Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(iamshack @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) How many tools does Anderson have again? Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Contreras @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:38 PM) Four. Which one does he need to borrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) That does not make him better than Anderson right now. He may have a much higher upside than Anderson but as of right now, I don't see how you can say Milledge and his 4 walks are "s***loads" better than BA. ah and what about BA's .190 average? and the 4 walks are in what, 86 at bats? BA's had 182... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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