chitownsportsfan Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 come on Kong, you got jammed by the same pitch twice, pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) I'm with you...he's slow and hittable. Getting consistently RIPPED. Pitching like a Pony Leaguer. Think the Cards still want him? After his 3-10 start in 2003 I was a little worried. He came back to go 14-14 after that, I will never give up on MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) I'm with you...he's slow and hittable. Getting consistently RIPPED. Pitching like a Pony Leaguer. Think the Cards still want him? Hell yes. 29 other teams would want a guy with a 4 ERA that never gets hurt and throws with his left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(atrain081 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) it just looks like our starters are tired out there. i wouldn't mind trying a six man rotation for a little bit and see if that doesn't help any I don't buy the tired excuse at all. Especially coming off of the all-star break. As I've said all year, with the money we have invested in these 5 guys, if they continue to underachieve, we don't deserve to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) A deeper pen would be a better option So Ozzie can go to the bullpen in the 5th after it's already 4-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Go Go Station to Station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nice piece of hitting Jermaine. LETS GO AYYYJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 06:27 PM) come on Kong, you got jammed by the same pitch twice, pathetic. His bat speed has been non-existent for 2 weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:29 PM) I don't buy the tired excuse at all. Especially coming off of the all-star break. As I've said all year, with the money we have invested in these 5 guys, if they continue to underachieve, we don't deserve to make the playoffs. You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Buerhle has before todays game a 11.91 ERA in July. Freddy is at 7.36 Vazquez is at 5.54 Garland is pitching well in July 2.35 and the Count is at 2.15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I hope Freddy is taking notes on Mussina for tomorrow. At least about first pitch strikes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:29 PM) I don't buy the tired excuse at all. Especially coming off of the all-star break. As I've said all year, with the money we have invested in these 5 guys, if they continue to underachieve, we don't deserve to make the playoffs. That's stupid. Make improvements no matter how much money we've got invested in the starters. Standing by while watching this mess is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Run into one, Juan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 economically speaking, a sunk cost is unrecoverable in other words, I couldn't disagree with fathom more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) That's stupid. Make improvements no matter how much money we've got invested in the starters. Standing by while watching this mess is retarded. I know you've been saying we need to add another starter. While I admire your passion about doing this, it's very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) Run into one, Juan. LOL, thank god for humor--I was just thinking...and it's up to Juan...which isn't good. And one flies out to center and gets himself out swining at a ball. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:29 PM) So Ozzie can go to the bullpen in the 5th after it's already 4-0? no, so the pressure gets off of the rotation a bit. after a couple months of a deeper pen, the overall pitching of the Sox would be a lot more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 We need someone to get a hit with RISP. Just a base hit please or a double in the gap. Yet we choke again. Stop launching every pitch into the air. A couple singles or double will work. Yet I forget we score the most on the dong in all of baseball. We live and die by the dong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 06:32 PM) economically speaking, a sunk cost is unrecoverable in other words, I couldn't disagree with fathom more Trust me, I don't agree with what I said, but it's the reality of how baseball works. There's been way too much talk about how this is the greatest rotation in history. The whole Vazquez trade has really been a disaster so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) economically speaking, a sunk cost is unrecoverable in other words, I couldn't disagree with fathom more True, but the sunk costs, AKA the rotation, might just have stretched JR's purse strings a little too tight on the operating budget for midseason trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:32 PM) I know you've been saying we need to add another starter. While I admire your passion about doing this, it's very unlikely. Well, KW supposedly did call the Marlins about Willis so it sounds he sees the problem and isn't content with our overpriced crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) True, but the sunk costs, AKA the rotation, might just have stretched JR's purse strings a little too tight on the operating budget for midseason trades. Not if we ship Freddy and his mid 80s fastball out of here. That would clear up some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I think our bullpen is pretty deep right now. It's not their fault that Ozzie has absolutely no clue how to use guys like McCarthy or Cotts (both should be allowed to start innings and face 5 or 6 guys in a game). In the past few months, we've only lost a few games due to our bullpen. Now, our starting pitching has been a much different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:32 PM) I know you've been saying we need to add another starter. While I admire your passion about doing this, it's very unlikely. Considering people in another thread were saying Garcia and Vazquez would be the best starters on the market, I think you're right. The only way the Sox improve the rotation is either their pitchers pitch better or they move McCarthy into it. The series in Detroit is going to be big for Detroit, huge for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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