PWSox87 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 27 men Left on base, 9 by Konerko, 6 each for Thome and Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Paul is in his pull monkey mode were he tries to pull every single pitch no matter were it is. Today they exploited that by throwing changeups and slow crap on the outside corner. Paulie was much ablidged to work out the SS on that or pop it up. Line drive swings win ball games. Being a softball team that tries to jerk pitches over the fence no matter what the situation is reminds me of the 2001-2004 Offense we strolled in here time after time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchstretch Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 This is the thread where the focus should be for discussion IMO We all know that our starting pitching giving up 5 runs in the first two innings is already a major problem that needs fixin, but today's boxscore is THE epitome of our problems of late, with 3-4-5 hitters being mostly responsible the lack of production . Everytime Konerko or Thome comeup in a situation where we really need a double, I have to guess if it's going to be a popup to the catcher, dribbler to short/second, or K, and Thome chasing the low outside pitch is a guaranteed whiff for the guy, somehow he's got to learn to layoff that pitch. 4 14 0 6 9 1 Great job by our club this series giving ESPN all the fuel they need to claim the central as inferior to the east for the remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojimthome Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(stretchstretch @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 04:27 PM) but today's boxscore is THE epitome of our problems of late, with 3-4-5 hitters being mostly responsible the lack of production . Don't just make things up. It's bush league. I understand that it's fashionable and fun to ignore facts when posting, but you're going to get called out on it sometime. Go ahead and take a look at the box scores since the 4th of July. 3-4-5 have accounted for plenty of production. "Lack of production" my ass...Unless "Of late" means "today" in your world. 7-4 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260704104 7-5 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260706104 7-6 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260706104 7-7 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260707104 7-8 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260708104 7-9 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260709104 7-10 thru 7-13 all-star break 7-14 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260714110 7-15 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260715110 Edited July 16, 2006 by Contreras' Crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 The box score says we left 10 on base, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchstretch Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Thanks for the stats. However, that's still not "plenty of production" because aside from Dye's 9th inning homer against Boston, they are not bringing in key RBI's when desperately needed. Since the 4th, Konerko and Thome have had many many opportuntunities for a big single in a clutch situation that'll bring in 2+ runs, but a shallow popup, whiff, or groundout has been the result way too many times....maybe you can point to the stats that refute that? but I'm not the only one here citing 3-4-5 issues in the past couple weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 We left the bases loaded every inning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadChiSoxFanOptimist Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 (edited) Any of you stat guys know how many double plays Paulie has hit into? Seems like a bunch. Edited July 16, 2006 by SadChiSoxFanOptimist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 06:00 PM) Any of you stat guys know how many double plays Paulie has hit into? Seems like a bunch. 15, good for 6th most in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 We looked so good at times and guys had some really good at bats, especially against Rivera, but we did too much little stuff wrong. Sure the pitching blew, but baserunning and defense also hurt us this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 We've done a great job so far this season at hitting with RISP. Just hasn't been the case lately. I'm sure this is only an aberration and nothing to be horribly concerned about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 08:19 PM) We've done a great job so far this season at hitting with RISP. Just hasn't been the case lately. I'm sure this is only an aberration and nothing to be horribly concerned about. I'm not sure about that...WOAH! Did you feel that?!?! I think the sky is falling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) Paul is in his pull monkey mode were he tries to pull every single pitch no matter were it is. Today they exploited that by throwing changeups and slow crap on the outside corner. Paulie was much ablidged to work out the SS on that or pop it up. Line drive swings win ball games. Being a softball team that tries to jerk pitches over the fence no matter what the situation is reminds me of the 2001-2004 Offense we strolled in here time after time. It's a bloodbath at third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) 15, good for 6th most in baseball. where is Tejada on that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(beautox @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) where is Tejada on that list? Numero uno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 With 14 hits, we should get more than 4 one-run innings. I didn't see the game, but the box score looked ugly. 3 GIDPs. Lots of men left on by the 3-4-5 hitters. Freddy didn't help by letting the Yanks get 6 runs in the first 4 innings, which likely forced our guys to press. Our lead over the Yanks is only 3 games. We better pick it up and play better fundamental baseball. The postseason is no certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 we needed to be SMARTER about situational hitting. Mariano Rivera DID NOT HAVE HIS STUFF this weekend and the SOX hit him pretty good, however, the guys a PRO and knew at least to locate his pitches, and got by by the skin of his teeth QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 09:52 PM) Our lead over the Yanks is only 3 games. We better pick it up and play better fundamental baseball. The postseason is no certainty. The Baserunning has been horrid lately too. I was very nervous about our pitching, knowing that Minnesota has decided to make things tough in this division, and the Yankees were only 5 games behind us in the Loss Column and you knew they wanted to beat us BADLY (note: they are only 2 games behind us now) The dumb giveaway losses are now coming back to haunt us. The SOX have to escape July and hope we dont fall to 7 or 8 games back heading into August, that month will be a killer and in fact, the SOX have the TOUGHEST schedule the rest of the way now and it was important that we had a LEAD in the standings. Things dont favor us unfortuneately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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