Sonik22 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Get well buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Great job by Garland overcoming the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 If Ozzie says anything to Jon for missing on two throws...thats it, its over. Jon was trying to and both of his pitches moved out of the way. Inning over but Hawk needs to be quiet. Marsh did exactly what he had to do there. Jon threw two pitches behind Kinsler and we all knew what they meant. If Marsh ignored it than your asking for a player or a bigger situation to arise. Thankfully we have DJ in the booth...its becoming more and more clear just how much Hawk holds back DJ. I like Hawk most of the time, but DJ is so much smarter baseball wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Ozzie @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 01:50 PM) Garland throws a pitch that looks like the JFK Magic Bullet. It's amazing how pitchers can hit locations within a 1ft by 1ft box, but yet, can't hit a standing body. I wouldn't suggest retaliation was necessary, but cmon -- it looks even more pathetic if Kinsler is sitting still in the box and fastballs are thrown behind him. Edited July 23, 2006 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) It's very nice to see us score without the use of a homer this inning. Good job by Gload/Ozzie to get us a run. Right there is why I'm a big fan of Gload. Gload knows how to handle a bat, is a good contact hitter and can spray the ball to all parts of the fields. He also relatively quick and isn't that horrible of a corner outfielder in a pinch (although we never use him in those parts anymore). And yes, I am and have been for a long time a big Ross Gload supporter because I think he can do all the little things and than some. One note on Padilla, our hitters need to let the ump call the high strike because we have no chance hitting Padilla's fastball when he's getting it right near the letters. Either see if the ump will call it or don't swing. Hopefully more often than not its called a ball and it will force Padilla to start throwing the ball a bit more down in the zone, making him more hittable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 06:57 PM) Right there is why I'm a big fan of Gload. Gload knows how to handle a bat, is a good contact hitter and can spray the ball to all parts of the fields. He also relatively quick and isn't that horrible of a corner outfielder in a pinch (although we never use him in those parts anymore). And yes, I am and have been for a long time a big Ross Gload supporter because I think he can do all the little things and than some. I like Gload as a hitter. He's one of the few line drive hitters on this team. However, I just don't think he has a real place on this roster. Dye really seems to be getting owned by Padilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) It's amazing how pitchers can hit locations within a 1ft by 1ft box, but yet, can't hit a standing body. I wouldn't suggest retaliation was necessary, but cmon -- it looks even more pathetic if Kinsler is sitting still in the box and fastballs are thrown behind him. I actually think its hard. Your pitching and now you got to take something off and aim somewhere you don't usually aim to. Think of it like when players throw an intentional walk and how much trouble they have. Jon had a convo with Ozzie and I'm dead serious when i say this and I have some other knowledge on the subject, but if Ozzie goes off on Jon thats it, I vote for him to be fired immediately because i Didn't condone what happened to Tracey and I sure as hell wouldn't condone it if he did the same to Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 And Ozzie goes off on Garland in the dugout. Can we trade managers at the deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:58 AM) I like Gload as a hitter. He's one of the few line drive hitters on this team. However, I just don't think he has a real place on this roster. Dye really seems to be getting owned by Padilla. Ya, he's in a tough spot. Personally speaking I'd probably dump Pods, use Mack a lot in LF and find a RH batter that could also play and than on ocassions I'd have Mack play against tough Righties with BA getting the day off and than that right hander playing left against tough righties. I think that would be more effective than Pods, the only problem is we wouldn't have a leadoff hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 i cant believe he went off on jon, f u ozzie, wtf dont listen to that man jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 06:58 PM) Jon had a convo with Ozzie and I'm dead serious when i say this and I have some other knowledge on the subject, but if Ozzie goes off on Jon thats it, I vote for him to be fired immediately because i Didn't condone what happened to Tracey and I sure as hell wouldn't condone it if he did the same to Jon. You won't see a manager berate a player in the dugout more than that. At least Ozzie cares more about winning than getting revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:58 AM) And Ozzie goes off on Garland in the dugout. Can we trade managers at the deadline? Oz's beef with Buck is going too far now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:00 PM) You won't see a manager berate a player in the dugout more than that. At least Ozzie cares more about winning than getting revenge. I understand making a point, but you can't possibly tell me that Jon was trying to not hit Kinsler. Fact is he missed, just like Tracey tried to hit but missed. Stuff happens, get over it. Instead Ozz completely over-reacts and may have just jacked our best starter's magic up (we shall see how he reacts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 lets get em jon, dont let this get in ur head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 It will be interesting to see how Garland responds this inning after the words of encouragement from Ozzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 02:00 PM) You won't see a manager berate a player in the dugout more than that. At least Ozzie cares more about winning than getting revenge. No kidding. Ozzie should be congratulating JG for getting Young to hit into a DP rather than being pissed because he missed Kinsler twice. What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie's Accent Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 The way we have been playing of late we don't need to give runners first base Ozzie. Get the priorities straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(illinilaw08 @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 07:01 PM) No kidding. Ozzie should be congratulating JG for getting Young to hit into a DP rather than being pissed because he missed Kinsler twice. What a joke If we go on to lose today, there's going to be a lot of crap going on after the game with Ozzie/media/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I haven't really been watching. I've been going back and forth to the kitchen for lunch. Ozzie yelled at Garland? Was it bad? Televised or on the radio? Anyone have a clue what Guillen was saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpezz27 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Maybe....just maybe Ozzie was mad Jon threw at him.....Maybe he told him not too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I usually like Ozz' over-all plan, but depending on what was said to Jon, the club should have some serious thoughts about removing him as manager. I don't tolerate some things and I honestly think some people are right when Ozzie can really blow things out of proportion and bring things down. Usually when he's doing it he's protecting players and its a good thing, but when he's berating his own for not hitting a guy (when they tried to), well than I have a problem. I don't mind if Ozzie goes over, asks what happens, Jon goes I tried and Guillen goes, next time get em. No need to do anything more than that. Now if Jon just ignored it the whole game, than thats another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) It will be interesting to see how Garland responds this inning after the words of encouragement from Ozzie. I'm not sure if Oz was yelling at him personally or was just letting out some frustration, we all know how animated Oz can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(tpezz27 @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) Maybe....just maybe Ozzie was mad Jon threw at him.....Maybe he told him not too....... All you had to do was look at Ozz's reaction, that said it all to me. QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) I haven't really been watching. I've been going back and forth to the kitchen for lunch. Ozzie yelled at Garland? Was it bad? Televised or on the radio? Anyone have a clue what Guillen was saying? Hawk made mention of it, but I sure didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 07:03 PM) I haven't really been watching. I've been going back and forth to the kitchen for lunch. Ozzie yelled at Garland? Was it bad? Televised or on the radio? Anyone have a clue what Guillen was saying? Yes, it was really bad. Thome actually walked close to it, in case he needed to break up the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 03:04 PM) I usually like Ozz' over-all plan, but depending on what was said to Jon, the club should have some serious thoughts about removing him as manager. Definitely. The manager who led the team to its first World Series title since 1917 should get removed for yelling at a pitcher who can't complete a simple order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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