shawnhillegas Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) Score is reporting MacDougal has been acquired for 2 minor leaguers. soriano deal imminent now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 If we have to give up either Fields or Broadway, along with McCarthy, in order to get Soriano, we better be sure we can re-sign him for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Score is also reporting the Soriano deal isn't as close as has been reported, although it is Offman so take it FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Score is also reporting the Soriano deal isn't as close as has been reported, although it is Offman so take it FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Here's what my buddy who's a royals fan told me about macdougal: "he hit 98 on the gun saturday night, and his slider hit 89. he struck out two of the three batters he faced. when he is on and healthy, he is very very good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 02:54 PM) it makes sense for a number of reasons 1. we all want pitching, but pitching isnt out there, so turn to offense. 2. soriano must NOT become a tiger 3. mccarthy is awesome but this teams shelf life ends in 2007, and mccarthy, while a big factor, figures largest post 2007, when we will likely not be as good as we are now (presuming of course we dont resign everyone) 4. if we make it through the ALCS, the series is ours. the NL is horrendous. So, teams don't sustain success in baseball? The Atlanta Braves shelf life has extended over a decade. Oakland and Minnesot did well with themselves since 2000. Yes, none are consistent World Series winners, but that doesn't mean every year the farm was sold to "win now." Considering our playoff spot if far from guaranteed, you don't know whether we would even make the playoffs following a trade. Wouldn't look to good trading McCarthy if we're not in the playoffs, would it? At least last season our birth was all but guaranteed (as we seemingly thought) around the trade deadline. I also don't like the concept of number 2, where we're acquiring a player to keep another team from obtaining him. Sounds like something a four-year old would do. Concept number 1 is how the Texas Rangers run their ballclub. They sure as hell haven't won much. It's ridiculous to ignore our pitching woes for an improved offense. I agree Soriano replacing Podsednik would be a welcomed improvement, but unloading Garcia and moving McCarthy into the rotation would benefit us more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 08:15 PM) better not be Tyler 99 pct sure it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) Score reported we just aqquired McDougal for 2 minor leaguers. Two suspects for a fromer first-round draft selection with a proven amateur career and a million-dollar arm? Thank you. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 ok, wait, what if the nats are stupid enough to take freddy and pods? we can dream cant we???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) Here's what my buddy who's a royals fan told me about macdougal: "he hit 98 on the gun saturday night, and his slider hit 89. he struck out two of the three batters he faced. when he is on and healthy, he is very very good." yeah he's good when healthy, but that's been a major issue, but Coop has turned people around before. Thorton is a good example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 How the fish is MacDougal worth Lumsden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) So, teams don't sustain success in baseball? The Atlanta Braves shelf life has extended over a decade. Oakland and Minnesot did well with themselves since 2000. Yes, none are consistent World Series winners, but that doesn't mean every year the farm was sold to "win now." Considering our playoff spot if far from guaranteed, you don't know whether we would even make the playoffs following a trade. Wouldn't look to good trading McCarthy if we're not in the playoffs, would it? At least last season our birth was all but guaranteed (as we seemingly thought) around the trade deadline. I also don't like the concept of number 2, where we're acquiring a player to keep another team from obtaining him. Sounds like something a four-year old would do. Concept number 1 is how the Texas Rangers run their ballclub. They sure as hell haven't won much. It's ridiculous to ignore our pitching woes for an improved offense. I agree Soriano replacing Podsednik would be a welcomed improvement, but unloading Garcia and moving McCarthy into the rotation would benefit us more. you are totally correct. I just think that Kenny might be taking the "go for broke, then rebuild" strategy as opposed to the "lets be good for 15 years"...hell the marlins have done it better than the braves, so its not as if that strategy lacks merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 "As for Soriano's possible destinations. ... White Sox GM Ken Williams was unusually candid in confirming to the Chicago Tribune that his club was one of four finalists -- along with the Tigers, the Angels and the Yankees -- for him." This came from MLB.com and adds some insight. Everything points to Kenny posturing but not actually following through on this trade rumor. It even seems like he's having fun feigning interest. B-Mac is going nowhere. If any deal happens it'll be for a bullpen arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) Here's what my buddy who's a royals fan told me about macdougal: "he hit 98 on the gun saturday night, and his slider hit 89. he struck out two of the three batters he faced. when he is on and healthy, he is very very good." The guy has a lot of potential. The problem being he's hardly ever healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkelstein Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I believe that Levine just said that it was Tyler and someone named Cortez for MacDougal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsdp Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 02:13 PM) The flu to be more specific. Middle of the summer? Odd time for the flu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) Score is also reporting the Soriano deal isn't as close as has been reported, although it is Offman so take it FWIW. Offman just took a dig at ESPN saying 'it's not as close as another network is reporting..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Anyone else think Bowden may fancy MacDougal? The pot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 That's some serious filth at the end of the game with Jenks/Thorton/MacDougal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) Ahhh ! I love trade rumors. Since we won the World Series . I've been pretty scarce around here. I'd come around and do a lil lurking , reading how Matt Thorton had no place on a major league roster and thinking its all so immaterial to me now. After all we are World Champs and will be until we're eliminated or win it again. I will not let anything spoil having that giddy feeling no Sox fan had experienced for 88 years. But all that being said. When trade rumors come up I love it. So far the big blockbuster has us getting Soriano. The members of the organization involved so far includes Podsednik, Anderson, McCarthy, Fields and Broadway. Keep Pods ? Does he become the new centerfielder or a supersub ? Do we just rent Soriano or sign him long term ? Maybe we trade him since theres still another week left before the trade deadline? Can we possibly afford to just rent him while giving up the best prospects we have ? The possibilities are endless and the best part is it might never happen. Or it could happen ! Just think of the lineup ! Damn ! Right now we're in a hitting funk, but clearly one of the best offenses in baseball. Soriano adds speed and power. What if the pitching suddenly does what it is capable of doing ? Damn , another World Series would be a walk in the park. Suddenly Buerhle's pitching like the MB of old , Garland continues his recent run of good starts, the Count stays dominant , Freddy G. pitches like everyone knows he can and Javy Vazquez ,no matter how you slice it is better then just about every other 5th starter. Oooh maybe we give up a starter and move McCarthy into the rotation. Oh this is fun ! Sumone give me more idle major trade speculation. Edited July 24, 2006 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 When MacDougal is healthy, he has some nasty stuff. Like, SICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(wsdp @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) Middle of the summer? Odd time for the flu... I just got over the flu a few weeks ago, it happens and it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(Finkelstein @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) I believe that Levine just said that it was Tyler and someone named Cortez for MacDougal? Obviously it's not the end all be all, but what is levine saying about Soriano? Interesting that Offman is saying it's not as close as being reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(wsdp @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) Middle of the summer? Odd time for the flu... Not really. The White Sox just had a flu bug go around the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) That's some serious filth at the end of the game with Jenks/Thorton/MacDougal. Imagine that bullpen when healthy and the pitchers are "on." Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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