Gene Honda Civic Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) Exactly. Which makes me wonder why they can be so terrible. They're just slumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 06:15 PM) OR get called out looking on an inside pitch JD had no chance swinging at that pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxman72 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:15 PM) as true as it might be, hawks gotta stop blaming the umpires I do some umpiring for local leagues, and I don't even remember what teams up when I'm making calls so its not as easy at as it seems, but when a team sucks lately, it seems like everything goes against us I also umpire High School, College, and Independent ball and you just make the call. Ypu do not think about screwing a team. You can not blame the umpires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) I also umpire High School, College, and Independent ball and you just make the call. Ypu do not think about screwing a team. You can not blame the umpires. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Santana's found a groove with his offspeed pitches now. Great...another game where Hawk's going to go off on the umps the whole game. I thought it was a nice move by Guillen to remind the umpire the strike zone should be the same no matter who's pitching. Hawk and DJ are right, the zone has been slightly different for Santana vs. Contreras. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) They're just slumping Might as well reply now. Wouldn't do it the other day. That's not surprising though. Nothing wrong with taking shots here and there for no reason. Edited July 26, 2006 by jphat007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Freddy Garcia vs Bedard? Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:15 PM) as true as it might be, hawks gotta stop blaming the umpires I do some umpiring for local leagues, and I don't even remember what teams up when I'm making calls so its not as easy at as it seems, but when a team sucks lately, it seems like everything goes against us True, it isnt as easy as it seems, I used to ump as well, but when you are a professional, the least you can expect is consistency. And yes, Hawk is a pro too and needs to stop getting upset with the umps. But that doesnt mean he isn't right, there have been 2 different strike zones today and once (see ball 4 in the first, the one he took not the one he swung at, for Pablo in the 1st) it may have cost the Sox a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxman72 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) JD had no chance swinging at that pitch I agree, but if the umpire is going to call that pitch you have to protect in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:19 PM) Freddy Garcia vs Bedard? Ugh 88 vs 94 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Might as well reply now. Wouldn't do it the other day. That's not surprising though. Nothing wrong with taking shots here and there for no reason. Yes. Contreras looking fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 01:19 AM) I thought it was a nice move by Guillen to remind the umpire the strike zone should be the same no matter who's pitching. Hawk and DJ are right, the zone has been slightly different for Santana vs. Contreras. IMO. The only time I believe a manager should get ejected is when he feels the zone is unfair, and the sooner he goes out there, the better. The last thing you want to do is have it get in our hitters head. In no way is this blaming Sandy, but he's been struggling with righties up framing pitches so far. That's not surprising, as Contreras has such a funky delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 He gone. And the Lord saideth "Let them have pitching. If they shalt gloateh about said pitching, giveth them Javier Vazquez of the big inning Vazquez's's's's'sss" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Mauer is so tall, he has a higher target than a lot of other catchers. I've noticed quite a few times how the Twins pitchers seem to get the high strike more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(illinilaw08 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:20 PM) True, it isnt as easy as it seems, I used to ump as well, but when you are a professional, the least you can expect is consistency. And yes, Hawk is a pro too and needs to stop getting upset with the umps. But that doesnt mean he isn't right, there have been 2 different strike zones today and once (see ball 4 in the first, the one he took not the one he swung at, for Pablo in the 1st) it may have cost the Sox a run. well you know what, umpires make mistakes, hopefully the ump finds some consistency, but if it we can always remember during the playoffs where the call went our way every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Nice bunt Juan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 well you know what, umpires make mistakes, hopefully the ump finds some consistency, but if it we can always remember during the playoffs where the call went our way every time HR at the Astro's park that was called a HR but actually hit the other side of the line, clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Brian is so going deep this inning. Never been so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) HR at the Astro's park that was called a HR but actually hit the other side of the line, clearly. well most of the calls went our way -the AJ play -uncalled catchers interference -jermaine dye hit by pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:22 PM) well you know what, umpires make mistakes, hopefully the ump finds some consistency, but if it we can always remember during the playoffs where the call went our way every time Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you, clearly they make mistakes and clearly the AJ call was close in the playoffs. And I am also aware that different umps have different strike zones. As such, the only time I get upset with officiating/umpiring is when it is inconsistent. If a pitch is a strike in the first, it should be a strike in the ninth. If it's a foul in the 1st quarter, it should be a foul in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Sandy with a couple of rockets so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 QUOTE(illinilaw08 @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you, clearly they make mistakes and clearly the AJ call was close in the playoffs. And I am also aware that different umps have different strike zones. As such, the only time I get upset with officiating/umpiring is when it is inconsistent. If a pitch is a strike in the first, it should be a strike in the ninth. If it's a foul in the 1st quarter, it should be a foul in the 4th. also true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Here's a fun game to play....will Anderson get a hit against Liriano or Santana this entire year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Baseball's best offense right thurr. QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 08:26 PM) Here's a fun game to play....will Anderson get a hit against Liriano or Santana this entire year? Yes. Chicago - Bottom of 3rd Score Johan Santana pitching for Minnesota MIN CHW J Uribe grounded out to third. 0 0 B Anderson singled to left. 0 0 S Podsednik popped out to second. 0 0 T Iguchi popped out to second. 0 0 0 Runs, 1 Hits, 0 Errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 07:26 PM) Here's a fun game to play....will Anderson get a hit against Liriano or Santana this entire year? Didn't he already get sawed off and have one against Johan in the first game? Yep he did. Edited July 26, 2006 by jphat007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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