Pastime Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 I'm sure Kenny has already talked with MB this morning. If I were Kenny, I would ask him one simple question: DO YOU WANT TO BE HERE? If he is sincere and wants to stay, then he's Sox property for another 4 years. If he doesn't want to be here, Kenny will trade him somewhere after the season - if not during the season. We already know Colon is gonzo after the season ends - if we lose Colon and Buehrle, then our pitching staff is completely f#cked. The thought of having Loaiza as our #1 and Garland as our #2 makes me feel like puking on my desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Mark would win 20 games easy with anyone but the Sox. Bad blood runs deep. With an ERA over 5.00, he's not winning 20 anywhere except maybe the local little league field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 a few bad outtings and you all turn like a pack of wolves ready to feed.............damn......... exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 The thought of having Loaiza as our #1 and Garland as our #2 makes me feel like puking on my desk. We might not have one or either of those two after White Flag II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 trade him for pujols throw in crede also...... Too bad asshole KW doesn't GM for the Cardinals. That would be the ONLY way St. Louis would trade Pujols for Buehrle and Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Too bad asshole KW doesn't GM for the Cardinals. That would be the ONLY way St. Louis would trade Pujols for Buehrle and Crede. What in the hell are you talking about? Gord Ash would make that trade too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 a few bad outtings and you all turn like a pack of wolves ready to feed.............damn......... Few bad outings??? He had what 5 bad outings. Look at his ERA 5.18. His record 2-10, he should be on 4-8. Because he had some good outings, but he had more bad outings than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Few bad outings??? He had what 5 bad outings. Look at his ERA 5.18. His record 2-10, he should be on 4-8. Because he had some good outings, but he had more bad outings than good. better go back and recheck those stats you all love so much......lack of run support is the cause of most of his s***ty era right now......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 better go back and recheck those stats you all love so much......lack of run support is the cause of most of his s***ty era right now......... What are you talking about? So the Sox aren't scoring for him...how does that make HIS ERA go up? That makes no sense. His JOB is to keep the other team from scoring. If what the Sox are doing on offense is affecting his ability to do that, he needs to go back to the minors. Maybe that will help him remember what he's paid to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 What are you talking about? So the Sox aren't scoring for him...how does that make HIS ERA go up? That makes no sense. His JOB is to keep the other team from scoring. If what the Sox are doing on offense is affecting his ability to do that, he needs to go back to the minors. Maybe that will help him remember what he's paid to do. oh you know what the hell i meant............era record wtf who the hell cares... this team sucks anyhow .. not like marks stats are going to change it........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I want him here. Next season he will have a good year, this his bad year. But waht he said last night tell us one thing, if one team offer more to him he will go in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 oh you know what the hell i meant............era record wtf who the hell cares... this team sucks anyhow .. not like marks stats are going to change it........... If Mark's ERA were in the low to mid 3's like it was last year and in 2001, we'd have 3 or 4 more wins. That would make a big difference in our position right now. Why are you so down on this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I want him here. Next season he will have a good year, this his bad year. But waht he said last night tell us one thing, if one team offer more to him he will go in a hurry. He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I want him here. Next season he will have a good year, this his bad year. But waht he said last night tell us one thing, if one team offer more to him he will go in a hurry. do you blame him... anyone of these guys would be out of here if offered more.. and if you dont think so your a dumbass............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. IF the Cards make a phone call to him and offer some money, he will go to KW and will say, one more time: "I would love to play in Stlouis!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 (edited) He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. IF the Cards make a phone call to him and offer some money, he will go to KW and will say, one more time: "I would love to play in Stlouis!" The Cards can't talk to him. That's tampering. We'd have to contact them about a trade, or them contact us about a trade. Edited June 13, 2003 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. IF the Cards make a phone call to him and offer some money, he will go to KW and will say, one more time: "I would love to play in Stlouis!" The Cards can't talk to him. That's tampering. We'd have to contact them about a trade, or them contact us about a trade. Yes, you are correct sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 If Mark's ERA were in the low to mid 3's like it was last year and in 2001, we'd have 3 or 4 more wins. That would make a big difference in our position right now. Why are you so down on this team? clujo in case you havent noticed this team has rolled over and died a long time ago...............down on the team .. no just being realistic about it.......and no marks era wouldnt make that much difference .. ok well maybe we would be sitting in second.. bfd with the talent this team has we should be sitting on top...............dont you get a bit pissed year after year watching the same sorry s*** happen here.......i know i do.. i for one would like to see a world series here before i f***in die...................im sick of this s*** ass team underperforming..............and im just taking this time to voice my opinion.. dont like it dont read or reply to it..........i dont care.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 do you blame him... anyone of these guys would be out of here if offered more.. and if you dont think so your a dumbass............. So you are saying that all of this players plays for us just for money, they hate the sox? I dont understand how you defend him so much. If a guy on my team says that he would love to play in other team, and he is one of the best player on the team, i would get sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. IF the Cards make a phone call to him and offer some money, he will go to KW and will say, one more time: "I would love to play in Stlouis!" The Cards can't talk to him. That's tampering. We'd have to contact them about a trade, or them contact us about a trade. Yes, you are correct sir. What??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 So you are saying that all of this players plays for us just for money, they hate the sox? I dont understand how you defend him so much. If a guy on my team says that he would love to play in other team, and he is one of the best player on the team, i would get sad. you just dont understand ok so im not going to go into detail about it cause i cant do so without getting in a pissy mood ok.. .drop it........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 clujo in case you havent noticed this team has rolled over and died a long time ago...............down on the team .. no just being realistic about it.......and no marks era wouldnt make that much difference .. ok well maybe we would be sitting in second.. bfd with the talent this team has we should be sitting on top...............dont you get a bit pissed year after year watching the same sorry s*** happen here.......i know i do.. i for one would like to see a world series here before i f***in die...................im sick of this s*** ass team underperforming..............and im just taking this time to voice my opinion.. dont like it dont read or reply to it..........i dont care.......... Well, you're a lot closer to death than I am, so I guess I have more patience than you do. But in all seriousness, if you feel that this team is talented enough to be in 1st, why is it so inconceivable to you that we make up this difference in the standings? We've played a lot better lately, but we still haven't come close to playing as good as we're capable of. All of us haven't given up like you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 you just dont understand ok so im not going to go into detail about it cause i cant do so without getting in a pissy mood ok.. .drop it........... Sorry if i'm boring you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 He won't be a free agent until 2006 I think. So a team can offer him all they want, but he can't do a thing about it. IF the Cards make a phone call to him and offer some money, he will go to KW and will say, one more time: "I would love to play in Stlouis!" The Cards can't talk to him. That's tampering. We'd have to contact them about a trade, or them contact us about a trade. Yes, you are correct sir. What??? Tampering is against the rules. I'm not sure what the penalty is for it, but I'm sure it is harse. The Cardinals cannot call Buehrle up and discuss signing him/trading for him, unless either they have our permission to, we contact them about making a trade, or they contact us about making a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Sorry if i'm boring you. It's not boredom -- it's PMS. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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