WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...ews/262005.html I remember the buzz about this guy when he was drafted, the first (documented) high schooler to reach 100 mph, and supposedly he hit 101. I dont think he ever made it past AA. Just another guy in another long line of KC draft busts. Btw there is a blurb about McCulloch in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loltrain Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Too bad about all the injuries, he certainly has an awesome name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 QUOTE(loltrain @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 10:04 PM) Too bad about all the injuries, he certainly has an awesome name. I swear I saw this guy in some porno... was it "Smokey and the ass bandits"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...ews/262005.html I remember the buzz about this guy when he was drafted, the first (documented) high schooler to reach 100 mph, and supposedly he hit 101. I dont think he ever made it past AA. Just another guy in another long line of KC draft busts. Btw there is a blurb about McCulloch in there. Sort of off topic, but not. I don't know who the minor league experts are around here, but I'm going to thow this one out there? My buddy threw 87-89 in high school, went to college and actually LOST 3 or 4 miles off his fastball. This is with increased physical training, higher competition, and better coaching. Does this happen a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 From what I have heard, there is no way to guarantee what will happen be it college or minors. Some gain in college by maturing with a lighter workload whereas some benefit by the better instruction of the minors. I think in the end with the college-HS debate, there reall is no significant advantage either way so the player is best doing what is right for his family at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 09:05 AM) Sort of off topic, but not. I don't know who the minor league experts are around here, but I'm going to thow this one out there? My buddy threw 87-89 in high school, went to college and actually LOST 3 or 4 miles off his fastball. This is with increased physical training, higher competition, and better coaching. Does this happen a lot? My velocity dramatically increased from high school to my freshman year of college. I gained about 6 inches in height from my senior year to January of my Freshman year. My velocity in high school was 78-80 mph I think, I could top it off at 82. My freshman year I was humming it in there at 87-89 and could break 90 depending on the gun. I did a ton of running in the offseason. But I also did a ton of long toss in the fall. I think that, plus my height helped me gain velocity in a short period of time. I lost velocity in my junior year, but that was to damage in my elbow and my shoulder that was seen with an MRI. If his mechanics changed and he isnt driving off the mound a lot. If he is out of shape, if he worked out a ton and gained a lot of muscle and isnt as flexible as he was. If he is overworked that could be another thing. I pitched a lot more innings between college and playing in competitive summer collegiate leagues and playing fall baseball. Any of these things could be a reason. Just see if its isolated or this is a trend for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) I swear I saw this guy in some porno... was it "Smokey and the ass bandits"? I cant believe you are actually admitting watching a porno called "Smokey and the ass bandits" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 11:59 AM) My velocity dramatically increased from high school to my freshman year of college. I gained about 6 inches in height from my senior year to January of my Freshman year. My velocity in high school was 78-80 mph I think, I could top it off at 82. My freshman year I was humming it in there at 87-89 and could break 90 depending on the gun. I did a ton of running in the offseason. But I also did a ton of long toss in the fall. I think that, plus my height helped me gain velocity in a short period of time. I lost velocity in my junior year, but that was to damage in my elbow and my shoulder that was seen with an MRI. If his mechanics changed and he isnt driving off the mound a lot. If he is out of shape, if he worked out a ton and gained a lot of muscle and isnt as flexible as he was. If he is overworked that could be another thing. I pitched a lot more innings between college and playing in competitive summer collegiate leagues and playing fall baseball. Any of these things could be a reason. Just see if its isolated or this is a trend for him. He's thicker than your average pitcher. (Former HS linebacker) I just thought going from high school to college would result in an increase in velocity. He's kinda lazy though, it's probably his own fault. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 07:05 AM) Sort of off topic, but not. I don't know who the minor league experts are around here, but I'm going to thow this one out there? My buddy threw 87-89 in high school, went to college and actually LOST 3 or 4 miles off his fastball. This is with increased physical training, higher competition, and better coaching. Does this happen a lot? Ya, at times guys throw harder in high school because they aren't throwing as many innings and have shorter seasons. Another thing that could happen is you have a coach that changes your mechanics to help out some other stuff and it results in a loss of velocity. Its really a crapshoot, some guys really gain velocity, others drop. Another thing that happens is guys from college can have the same thing since they at times only start once every 7 days as opposed to every 5 which means they are always stronger and when you switch to once every 5 days guys don't always maintain velocity so they turn into guys that don't throw near as hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 02:25 PM) Ya, at times guys throw harder in high school because they aren't throwing as many innings and have shorter seasons. Another thing that could happen is you have a coach that changes your mechanics to help out some other stuff and it results in a loss of velocity. Its really a crapshoot, some guys really gain velocity, others drop. Another thing that happens is guys from college can have the same thing since they at times only start once every 7 days as opposed to every 5 which means they are always stronger and when you switch to once every 5 days guys don't always maintain velocity so they turn into guys that don't throw near as hard. Makes sense, thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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