Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:52 PM) Whatever Hawk. There were tons of rumors last year with Griffey and Burnett. The Tigers and Twins have been involved in a lot of rumors as well. Its a BS excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 12:52 AM) . THe question is who do we replace, Freddy or Buehrle. I'd love to think we could move Freddy for prospects but thats a sign of a team giving up and I don't think Kenny is willing to do that. I'm convinced Freddy got fat and lazy over the off-season and thats why his velocity is down. In Buehrles case he can't locate and his velocity is a bit down as well, but he has had success for an extended period this year and I'd prefer to be on him re-figuring things out. No matter if we trade Garcia now or in the offseason, I don't think we're going to get much for him at all. I'm all for trading him this weekend, and opening up the position for McCarthy. That type of shake up could really wake up the team, and make them know that no one's role is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 06:53 PM) Hawk and DJ back to dishing out the excuses. Apparently, our players are all struggling because they don't want to be traded away from their bestest friends. its only fun to listen to hawk when we are winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 05:49 PM) That wasn't the question though, it was whether we would accept a White Flag trade, AKA trading our superstars for loads of soon-to-be-ready prospects? No, it would be completely assinine which is exactly what I said. There is no such thing as taking a bunch of soon to be ready prospects and staying competitive. Its one thing if you retool and move a couple guys for new pieces or different pieces that are quality, its another when you move guys like Dye/Thome/Konerko/Count/Garland. If we want to retool, we do it in the off-season, not now. If you guys want to see the fan base completely disappear than you can go ahead and deal Buehrle/Vaz/Garcia for prospects and see this organization fail to win for another 80 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 05:53 PM) Brian doing good things, I'm sure he'll sit tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:53 PM) Hawk and DJ back to dishing out the excuses. Apparently, our players are all struggling because they don't want to be traded away from their bestest friends. It is downright annoying now. Hawk not even paying attention to the game it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:52 PM) ok.. whatever dude. i'm just trying to get some runs and win a game and have fun. your not Okay... "I'm trying" to get some runs and win as well, even though I don't play for the team. It's impossible to have fun watching this team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 pablo.. cmon man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 PABLO DELIVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Yeah....Soriano would suck in this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:54 PM) No, it would be completely assinine which is exactly what I said. There is no such thing as taking a bunch of soon to be ready prospects and staying competitive. Its one thing if you retool and move a couple guys for new pieces or different pieces that are quality, its another when you move guys like Dye/Thome/Konerko/Count/Garland. If we want to retool, we do it in the off-season, not now. If you guys want to see the fan base completely disappear than you can go ahead and deal Buehrle/Vaz/Garcia for prospects and see this organization fail to win for another 80 years. Got ya. I understand, and agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:54 PM) Okay... "I'm trying" to get some runs and win as well, even though I don't play for the team. It's impossible to have fun watching this team right now. Thanks for a reasonable response. maybe we find a way but that pablo swing will hurt our chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 12:52 AM) I find it amusing that we are considering that Ozzie needs to be more demonstrative. I think he has often treaded a fine and effective line when it comes to overdoing it .......... to the point where nobody listens. I am sure he feels that a giant rant at the moment might backfire, especially if it serves no purpose. Personally, I think he has shown himself to be incedibly intuitive as far as when to push the buttons and when not to. I trust his decision making. Have you considered that nobody could get this team going at the moment. Would it surprise that many people if, despite the way they are playing, they turned things around. Perhaps he feels that he needs to be supportive at this difficult time, rather than assuming the scolding parent. Screw motivating...how about better strategizing? We seem determined to let the other team's best players consistently beat us with 2 outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 atta boy, pablo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 At least Bedard's at 103 pitches. Maybe that's why Freddy throws 87 mph now. He's been rumored to be dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 05:54 PM) No matter if we trade Garcia now or in the offseason, I don't think we're going to get much for him at all. I'm all for trading him this weekend, and opening up the position for McCarthy. That type of shake up could really wake up the team, and make them know that no one's role is safe. I'd rather throw him on the DL if the value isn't there and see what happens. I have no doubt that he was effected by the WBC along with him getting a bit out of shape after winning the world series. I do think he can regain his velocity with the proper work ethic over the off-season. I wouldn't even think about trading Vaz right now, not when Coop is getting so close (imo) and well Buehrle isn't the type of guy we can just give up on, especially since he works so hard and has been dominant at one point this season. Shake things up, move Freddy to the DL and see what Brandon can do (or let Freddy pitch out of the pen but I don't know how that would fly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 sad thing is we can be mad at pablo there.. but would scotty have done better? .. LF is not a strenth anymore for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:55 PM) Screw motivating...how about better strategizing? We seem determined to let the other team's best players consistently beat us with 2 outs. That is exactly right. The other team's best players always get a chance to beat the Sox. Paulie out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I dont understand why Ozzie must always have Pablo in there against lefties. he isnt a platoon type player. he is a nice spark to have about once a week or in later innings as a PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Rally Gload...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Neal Cotts warming. That used to make me feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(zenryan @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) I dont understand why Ozzie must always have Pablo in there against lefties. he isnt a platoon type player. he is a nice spark to have about once a week or in later innings as a PR. Pods is the worst batter I have ever seen against lefties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Bottom 6TH B:0 S:0 O:0 Defensive Substitution: Ross Gload replaces first baseman Paul Konerko, batting 4th, playing first base. Can anyone explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 12:57 AM) sad thing is we can be mad at pablo there.. but would anyone on this team have done better? .. Hitting is not a strenth anymore for us Fixed QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 12:58 AM) Pods is the worst batter I have ever seen against lefties. How soon people forget Jose Valentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) Pods is the worst batter I have ever seen against lefties. Mack's worse, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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