iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 this is pathetic. first pitch in a BIG inning for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) So on the orioles brodcast they said that in the last whatever number of games were 14 of 84 with RISP. That comes out to be .16666666667 fishing TITS Ya and that wasn't counting tonights game in which we've once again lacked a hit with RISP (well I guess Ozuna hat a hit with RISP, but BA didn't come around to score on the single...he did score on Guchi's sac fly though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 the reason it isn't pissing him off is because he knows that there is nothing he can do with this team. Last year we were great for 5 months, then when we struggled, he said we stunk, he expected more. I think he knows at this point there isn't much to expect with a one dimensional offense and below average pitching. If there's nothing he can do, then what good is a manager? If there's nothing he can do, then apparently he didn't do anything last year either, and he deserves no credit for the Sox championship. Of course, in reality, there are things he can do. He did things last year that helped this team win. He's not being effective this season. I don't see him doing much at all. I see no fire, no urgency, no intensity from him. I don't see him even acting like this is unacceptable and it has to change immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 (edited) Nice hustle down the line AJ. Edited July 29, 2006 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) If there's nothing he can do, then what good is a manager? If there's nothing he can do, then apparently he didn't do anything last year either, and he deserves no credit for the Sox championship. Of course, in reality, there are things he can do. He did things last year that helped this team win. He's not being effective this season. I don't see him doing much at all. I see no fire, no urgency, no intensity from him. I don't see him even acting like this is unacceptable and it has to change immediately. We both totally agree on this line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 It's the 8th inning in a 2 run ball game, and there's absolutely no intensity by the Sox. It's sad it's gotten to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:27 PM) As long as he stays healthy. That's been a huge problem for him. with the way ozzie leaves in the SP. and the fact that our BP guys don't get a whole lotta work other than bobby when were doing well it shouldn't be a problem I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:23 PM) You didn't answer the question about the relievers. You said they should be allowed to clean up their own mess, but not the starters. It's a little bit different leaving out a starter to work around trouble when they've faced a lineup three times around and have thrown nearly 100 pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:29 PM) Nice hussle down the line AJ. There are too many White Sox that give the courtesy jog down the line on routine grounders. If you develop a reputation for busting your ass, you will make the opposition commit at least 1 error every year, and probably more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Maybe Mariotti will write another anti-Sox column and that will light a fire under Ozzie. Something has to wake him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 01:30 AM) It's a little bit different leaving out a starter to work around trouble when they've faced a lineup three times around and have thrown nearly 100 pitches. Especially with the awful numbers some of our pitchers have as their pitch total adds up. We're not the first team to go far in the playoffs and then have our pitchers fall apart the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Great job by Juan to try and pull a pitch 4 inches outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguchi=dank Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Will ozzie let BA start the 9th or does he bring in Mack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Yes, I would give our relievers the chance to clean up their mess. Fair enough. So it depends on the level of the mess and who they'd be facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 01:30 AM) There are too many White Sox that give the courtesy jog down the line on routine grounders. If you develop a reputation for busting your ass, you will make the opposition commit at least 1 error every year, and probably more. Thome gets down the line just as fast as Pods on routine grounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:30 PM) There are too many White Sox that give the courtesy jog down the line on routine grounders. If you develop a reputation for busting your ass, you will make the opposition commit at least 1 error every year, and probably more. I recall Ozzie benching Uribe last year for not hustling. Apparently he isn't as concerned with that this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I'm so sick of out-hitting teams but not when it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:31 PM) Especially with the awful numbers some of our pitchers have as their pitch total adds up. We're not the first team to go far in the playoffs and then have our pitchers fall apart the next year. exactly. why let garcia go out for the 7th if hes already thrown 96 pitches and wont be allowed to clean up his own messes? why make life harder for the relievers??? doesnt fishing make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 the Greg Hibbard suicide watch is officially on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:32 PM) I recall Ozzie benching Uribe last year for not hustling. Apparently he isn't as concerned with that this year. Ozzie himself used to do that. I remember Hawk sort of calling him out on it once. He said he hated when Ozzie did that. Now almost everyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Fair enough. So it depends on the level of the mess and who they'd be facing. Of course, there's situations where it's obvious you should bring a lefty in (like having Thornton face Blalock, which was a good job by Ozzie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Jay Marriotti is a f**....ok lets see if we can get this ship righted now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 08:32 PM) Fair enough. So it depends on the level of the mess and who they'd be facing. ya know i'm not sure one on, 2 outs counts as a mess.... cotts shoulda been kept in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 This team is done. They will finish at least 15 games back. They have nothing left in the tank. If you can't see that with tonights performance I have some land in East Gary to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 The White Sox have only won 5 games this season scoring 3 or less runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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