Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Per ESPN. Anyone know the rest of the deal yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 The Yankees also get Corey Lidle in the deal . . . http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2534459 The Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees have a tentative deal to send Phillies right fiedler Bobby Abreu and pitcher Cory Lidle to New York ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reported Sunday. Stark reported the Yankees will send 18-year-old minor-league shrotstop C.J. Henry -- their No. 1 pick in 2005 -- and 27-year-old left-handed reliever Matt Smith. The Phillies will also pick one other minor-leauge player from an agreed-upon list, while the Yankees will take on responsibility for Abreu and Lidle's contracts. Abreu is hitting .277 with 8 home runs and 65 RBI in 99 games. He has a career batting average of .301 with 198 home runs and 841 RBI over 10 seasons. Lidle, a right-hander, is 8-7 with a 4.74 ERA in 21 starts in 2006. In eight seasons he has a career mark of 78-69 with a 4.54 ERA. Abreu was in the Phillies' starting lineup Sunday but was pulled for Shane Victorino 10 minutes before their game with the Florida Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 To the Yankees. Abreu has been pulled from the lineup and replaced in starting field before the game with the Marlins. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...sp&c_id=mlb Sorry I don't know how to make it a hyperlink. Help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Not good as far as the Wild Card race goes, Abreu is a HUGE updgrade for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) Not good as far as the Wild Card race goes, Abreu is a HUGE updgrade for them. Abreu's 06 stats are not impressive. This trade does nothing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) Cory Lidle is in the deal too.... Edited July 30, 2006 by AWhiteSoxinNJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:18 PM) Abreu's 06 stats are not impressive. This trade does nothing for me. .427 OBP??? 20 for 24 in steals? More BB's than K's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:25 PM) .427 OBP??? 20 for 24 in steals? More BB's than K's. Less runs scored than Scott Podsednik. Anywho, this trade doesn't bug me at all, if our team wakes up, Abreu or not we're in the playoffs, if they continue to play like crap then they aren't going anywhere. That simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Still, imagine this lineup in October... CF Damon SS Jeter 3B Rodriguez 1B Giambi RF Sheffield DH Abreu LF Matsui C Posada 2B Cano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) Less runs scored than Scott Podsednik. Yep, clearly his fault too, I mean getting on base 43 of every 100 times, they basically never even get a chance to knock him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 You're fooling yourself if you think this trade shouldn't worry us. One of our 2 main rivals for the WC (the only race we have a shot in) just improved tremendously. And they've already stuck it to us once this season. Plus, they haven't missed the playoffs in how many years? KW needs to make a move, or quite possibly we're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:39 PM) You're fooling yourself if you think this trade shouldn't worry us. One of our 2 main rivals for the WC (the only race we have a shot in) just improved tremendously. And they've already stuck it to us once this season. Plus, they haven't missed the playoffs in how many years? KW needs to make a move, or quite possibly we're screwed. The trade itself doesn't worry me one bit. We're still the more talented team. Now, our own team definitely worries me but the yankees still don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:42 PM) The trade itself doesn't worry me one bit. We're still the more talented team. Now, our own team definitely worries me but the yankees still don't. Can I ask why the Yankees don't worry you? They just swept us with guys named Guiel, Cairo, and Cabrera starting for them. They haven't missed the playoffs since I can't even remember. They just added a guy with the 6th highest OBP in all of baseball. Their starters have even been better than ours. They worry the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:25 PM) .427 OBP??? 20 for 24 in steals? More BB's than K's. TO look at this in a different light, there are other people the Yanks could have acquired that would have scared me a lot more. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Can I ask why the Yankees don't worry you? They just swept us with guys named Guiel, Cairo, and Cabrera starting for them. They haven't missed the playoffs since I can't even remember. They just added a guy with the 6th highest OBP in all of baseball. Their starters have even been better than ours. They worry the hell out of me. The Royals or D-Rays coud have swept us last week. Edited July 30, 2006 by Greg The Bull Luzinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Can I ask why the Yankees don't worry you? They just swept us with guys named Guiel, Cairo, and Cabrera starting for them. They haven't missed the playoffs since I can't even remember. They just added a guy with the 6th highest OBP in all of baseball. Their starters have even been better than ours. They worry the hell out of me. Cause we're still the better team, one that is playing like crap right now but still better. Like I said, the Yankees won't beat us out for the wildcard this year. If we get this team back on the right track then we'll be in the playoffs, if not, then the Twins will be in the playoffs. The Yankees still won't win the wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) Cause we're still the better team, one that is playing like crap right now but still better. Like I said, the Yankees won't beat us out for the wildcard this year. If we get this team back on the right track then we'll be in the playoffs, if not, then the Twins will be in the playoffs. The Yankees still won't win the wildcard. Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 We need a trade. Can't have our usual crappy 2nd half because we don't have a 15-game lead this year. Need a trade to bolster the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 This is a good move for the Yankees. I know there's a lot of talk about Sheffield and Matsui coming back by the end of the year, but look at how Derrick Lee reacted when he came back from a wrist injury. I don't think the Yankees can really count on those two being factors this year, and if they are, then it's a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loltrain Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 With Sheffield and Matsui back, noone in the majors, Detroit or Chicago included is better than New York. The key thing is that this is *on paper*, they were better than Chicago on paper last year, and look how that went. But saying it doesn't worry you is silly, it worries me, and we're alot farther ahead of them than you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Bobby Abreu must wave his no-trade clause to become a Yankee. Thank you ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 02:05 PM) We need a trade. Can't have our usual crappy 2nd half because we don't have a 15-game lead this year. Need a trade to bolster the team. No. We don't need any trades. No trade will make our starters magically start pitching better. And that's what we need. 5 starting pitchers who pitch better than the group we've sent out there this year. Shockingly, there's no such market with 5 better pitchers than the defending World Series champs rotation are available. Edited July 30, 2006 by Gene Honda Civic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 02:55 PM) No. We don't need any trades. No trade will make our starters magically start pitching better. And that's what we need. 5 starting pitchers who pitch better than the group we've sent out there this year. Shockingly, there's no such market with 5 better pitchers than the defending World Series champs rotation are available. What about Zito? If he's available, he'd clearly be an upgrade over Garcia/Vazquez. That would certainly give us a better chance against some of these teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 03:05 PM) What about Zito? If he's available, he'd clearly be an upgrade over Garcia/Vazquez. That would certainly give us a better chance against some of these teams. Zito's not available for anything we're offering. And we need 4 more to improve the team as much as it will require to make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm glad we're not getting Abreu, I just don't think he's as good as people say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) I'm glad we're not getting Abreu, I just don't think he's as good as people say. If it's possible, he's turned into the most underrated, overrated player in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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