Ahh Mariotti's Back...

[fathom]

Well, in 04 in April and May Santana posted ERAs of 5.40 and 5.79. That would be a two month slump, no?

 

And interestingly enough, there were a lot of rumors that he was injured (I believe bone chips were a concern).

Edited August 1, 2006 by fathom

[RockRaines]

And interestingly enough, there were a lot of rumors that he was injured (I believe bone chips were a concern).

And then what happened?

[fathom]

And then what happened?

 

He pitched better, and then people forgot about the "injury". It's the same thing with people saying Mark's injured now. He's not...he was throwing pretty hard for him last game. Just because your location sucks and every bad pitch you make is getting hammered, it doesn't mean you're injured. Buehrle's struggles now actually reminds me of Garland from the first 2 months of the season.

[RockRaines]

He pitched better, and then people forgot about the "injury". It's the same thing with people saying Mark's injured now. He's not...he was throwing pretty hard for him last game. Just because your location sucks and every bad pitch you make is getting hammered, it doesn't mean you're injured. Buehrle's struggles now actually reminds me of Garland from the first 2 months of the season.

I will be more specific.

 

June 2.39 .72

July 1.17 .63

Aug 2.08 .83 6-0

Sept .45 .68 5-0

[winninguglyin83]

buehrle needs to stand and deliver tonight.

 

they got him a new catcher.

 

he's getting the Royals

 

They say he's not tipping pitches.

 

he says he is not injured.

 

What excuse is left?

[Texsox]

"As Buehrle goes, so goes the White Sox."

 

That's actually quite insightful.

 

It is so amazingly simple, and so true.

[CanOfCorn]

It is so amazingly simple, and so true.

 

 

 

It's so simple.

[mrzo2733]

It is so amazingly simple, and so true.

 

I so agree. I was thinking the same thing today before today's game. I can't truly feel comfortable about our staff until Buehrle is right. Good to see him take the first step tonight.

[wallyburger]

Ouch, 4 posts in and the thread was hijacked. If I may go back to Mariotti, what contract extension and raise? I am an out of towner and out of the mainstream loop.

 

P.S. I am glad he is back, if only for the controversial articles he is guaranteed to write. Love him or hate him, he will get your attention. The beat writers crap is boring. I really thought the Williams article about inactivity was with some merit, but I am really not bent out of shape by Williams non decisions. One Championship in my lifetime beats all Hell out of none. I saw the AL Championship in '59 and the World Series Championship in 2005. When you wait that long, contentment creeps into the equation.

[StrangeSox]

Ouch, 4 posts in and the thread was hijacked. If I may go back to Mariotti, what contract extension and raise? I am an out of towner and out of the mainstream loop.

 

P.S. I am glad he is back, if only for the controversial articles he is guaranteed to write. Love him or hate him, he will get your attention. The beat writers crap is boring. I really thought the Williams article about inactivity was with some merit, but I am really not bent out of shape by Williams non decisions. One Championship in my lifetime beats all Hell out of none. I saw the AL Championship in '59 and the World Series Championship in 2005. When you wait that long, contentment creeps into the equation.

 

Mariotti's articles are often shallow and very obvious and meant only to spark controversy instead of actually meaning anything. I'll pass.

[greg775]

I will say in his absence, the columns were rather boring.

They probably should have let Couch write a lot more columns to see

if he could have become the popular columnist with Moronotti

on break.

I think his columns are OK since they seem to fire up our Sox, but

they are way too long.

That in itself shows his ego. He oughta shorten the columns and

go to the clubhouse and write a few off that.

He really does look like a puss not going to the clubhouse and it

puts the other columnists at a disadvantage.

It's pretty fishing easy for Moronotti to blast away and blast away

when he won't show his face.

The other columnists show up and get the other side of the story and

tend to be more fair, yet duller as a result.

Off my dull soapbox.

GO SOX

[wallyburger]

I will say in his absence, the columns were rather boring.

They probably should have let Couch write a lot more columns to see

if he could have become the popular columnist with Moronotti

on break.

I think his columns are OK since they seem to fire up our Sox, but

they are way too long.

That in itself shows his ego. He oughta shorten the columns and

go to the clubhouse and write a few off that.

He really does look like a puss not going to the clubhouse and it

puts the other columnists at a disadvantage.

It's pretty fishing easy for Moronotti to blast away and blast away

when he won't show his face.

The other columnists show up and get the other side of the story and

tend to be more fair, yet duller as a result.

Off my dull soapbox.

GO SOX

 

I am under the impression that beat writers need to follow the team on the road and show up in the clubhouse. I don't think that is appropriate or necessary for a columnist/op ed writer.

[Kyyle23]

I am under the impression that beat writers need to follow the team on the road and show up in the clubhouse. I don't think that is appropriate or necessary for a columnist/op ed writer.

 

No Wally, it isnt necassary for a columnist to be in the clubhouse(although I dont know why you would think it would be inappropriate for a columnist to show up in the clubhouse, when every other columnist in CHicago aside from Mariotti shows up).

But is it appropriate to write columns as if you interviewed someone or as if you were in the clubhouse experiencing the atmosphere if you werent there? Think about how many times Mariotti uses the phrase "The mood in the clubhouse is.....". The guy is never there. It is one thing to speculate on happenings in the clubhouse, it is a completely different animal to get your report from someone else or from the television and make your own conclusions about it.

Edited August 6, 2006 by kyyle23

[wallyburger]

No Wally, it isnt necassary for a columnist to be in the clubhouse(although I dont know why you would think it would be inappropriate for a columnist to show up in the clubhouse, when every other columnist in CHicago aside from Mariotti shows up).

But is it appropriate to write columns as if you interviewed someone or as if you were in the clubhouse experiencing the atmosphere if you werent there? Think about how many times Mariotti uses the phrase "The mood in the clubhouse is.....". The guy is never there. It is one thing to speculate on happenings in the clubhouse, it is a completely different animal to get your report from someone else or from the television and make your own conclusions about it.

 

Because it is his opinion, not yours or someone else's. Sun Times pays him for his opinion. He doesn't have to be balls on accurate or coddle the local sports product, to be an op/ed columnist. What he seems to do is ask questions that others might ask from an outside view, and then supplies his take. Beat writers do interviews or report on what a player said. They can have opinions, but rarely express them in their journals. They are reporters. Jay is not a reporter. Beat writers would not be exactly welcome in clubhouses or on chatered planes if they wrote the stuff Jay does. They are where they are by the grace of the players and management. If you want puff pieces, go to a beat writer. Ask a beat writer if he would rather be a columnist who does not have to stay on the good side of players and management to do his job.

 

As a reader, you can ignore his articles. Box scores and beat writers will supply all the recap info you need. Jay , supposedly, got a raise and contract extension by the Sun Times. Someone at that paper made a decision that his articles were worth their while., at least to their revenue stream. It seems they don't care wheteher he is liked or despised, as long as he is read.

 

Look, the guy ripped my esteemed U of Miami football team the other day. I thought he was way off base and was using stale outdated perception, but I really didn't expect him to go to the Huricane off season workouts to adjust his perception. Perception is what it is. Just Jay being Jay. Ozzie and Jay are trwins seperated at birth.

[Kyyle23]

Because it is his opinion, not yours or someone else's. Sun Times pays him for his opinion. He doesn't have to be balls on accurate or coddle the local sports product, to be an op/ed columnist. What he seems to do is ask questions that others might ask from an outside view, and then supplies his take. Beat writers do interviews or report on what a player said. They can have opinions, but rarely express them in their journals. They are reporters. Jay is not a reporter. Beat writers would not be exactly welcome in clubhouses or on chatered planes if they wrote the stuff Jay does. They are where they are by the grace of the players and management. If you want puff pieces, go to a beat writer. Ask a beat writer if he would rather be a columnist who does not have to stay on the good side of players and management to do his job.

 

As a reader, you can ignore his articles. Box scores and beat writers will supply all the recap info you need. Jay , supposedly, got a raise and contract extension by the Sun Times. Someone at that paper made a decision that his articles were worth their while., at least to their revenue stream. It seems they don't care wheteher he is liked or despised, as long as he is read.

 

Look, the guy ripped my esteemed U of Miami football team the other day. I thought he was way off base and was using stale outdated perception, but I really didn't expect him to go to the Huricane off season workouts to adjust his perception. Perception is what it is. Just Jay being Jay. Ozzie and Jay are trwins seperated at birth.

 

i couldnt agree with this more.

 

It is strange to me that you can appreciate and enjoy Jay for what he is, yet you despise Ozzie, but you think they are one and the same.

Edited August 6, 2006 by kyyle23