YASNY Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 This subject was being discussed in another thread, and I felt it was worthy of it's thread. What are your opinions of Jermaine Dye as a right fielder? Strengths? Weaknesses? Discuss please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I really have no problem with his "D"; he'll miss one every now and then but not to the point where it's noticeable to me. He's also made some nice diving catches. Granted, they aren't always pretty and he doesn't seem to have the instinct that Anderson does for knowing where the ball's going, but I have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Strengths: Great reads; is rarely taken offguard. Strong, accurate arm Weaknesses: Absolutely no makeup speed. Appears slower than hell running after fly balls to his left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadChiSoxFanOptimist Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 He's just about average in my book...always gives good effort. Has made some excellent plays and disappointed me in several others. He has this loping (he's tall -- 6'4" I think) running style that makes him look slow to the ball. His arm is just OK. I like JD, but I think perhaps this is his last year with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think he knows how to make the tough catch and hold on to the ball. He reads the ball off the bat pretty well. He looks like his running thru mud sometimes, but I have no prob with JD's defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygoat Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 If he can catch up to a ball, its caught. His arm is one of the best in the league, and he has very good reads. he also looks extremely slow when getting to balls in the gap and balls down the line. I think his defensive abilities are above average and he is the only one hitting right now on our team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think JD is a very good defensive player when he gets to play alongside a very good defensive player. Yes, he does have key weaknesses, like some of his runs to the side after balls. Those weaknesses get magnified if he doesn't have someone alongside him who can fill in those gaps. If you put JD up alongside a center fielder with great range, JD will do an excellent job in RF, because it cuts down on the area he has to cover moving laterally; he can take a few more steps towards the line, and focus more on covering forwards and backwards rather than covering the Right Center gap. In other words, stop (#&*($&389&&*(%* putting Mack in CF, and people will stop complaining about Dye's defense. His arm is good, but the accuracy hasn't thrilled me. His arm is good enough to scare some people into not advancing, which is helpful, but he doesn't have the outfield assists to show for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 He's above average defensively IMO. He does make some incredible plays, and I think his range is underrated. He appears slow, but he's faster than he looks. Long striders always appear slower than they really are. He gets good reads, and has a strong arm, although it hasn't been quite as accurate as it usually is this season. He's not a gold glover anymore, but he isn't bad out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valponick Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think his defensive ability is average. He usually gets really good reads/jumps on balls hit directly over his head. I think his weakness is in his lateral movement. He doesn't move well to to the gap or to the foul line. His arm is solid and fairly accurate but I don't recall him having many outfield assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I'd rather have him play LF. That's my stance on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 12:22 PM) I like JD, but I think perhaps this is his last year with us. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think he's great. He always seems to make the plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) I like JD, but I think perhaps this is his last year with us. Wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 12:59 PM) I think he's great. He always seems to make the plays. I definitely wouldn't say he's great. He's a little above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 He's slightly above average in RF IMO. He catches it if he gets to it, still has a pretty good arm, and gets great reads, which makes up for the lack of speed. But then again, this topic doesn't matter to me as long as Jermaine leads the AL in slugging and has an OPS over 1.000, as well as a pace to finish with over 40 homers and 100 RBI's, as well as a .320 average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:03 PM) I definitely wouldn't say he's great. He's a little above average. I'm going to stick with great. He's got deceptive speed, a great arm, takes good reads, dives a little more than I'd like...but that has to do with his speed. He's faster than most give him credit for, but he's still not THAT fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dye's offense has been awesome, there's no question. However, why do people keep saying he has a cannon for an arm? He hasn't thrown out anyone at 3rd or home this season, and teams are definitely being aggressive on the bases against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) He's slightly above average in RF IMO. He catches it if he gets to it, still has a pretty good arm, and gets great reads, which makes up for the lack of speed. But then again, this topic doesn't matter to me as long as Jermaine leads the AL in slugging and has an OPS over 1.000, as well as a pace to finish with over 40 homers and 100 RBI's, as well as a .320 average. I agree about the offense. If he continues to hit like he does, he can do whatever he wants. The reason I brought it up in the first place is to talk about how bad our OF defense is with Mackowiak. I think, even with BA in CF, it's still only decent to good. With Mackowiak out there, it's hilariously bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) I'm going to stick with great. He's got very little speed, a great arm, takes good reads, dives a little more than I'd like...but that has to do with his lack of speed. He's faster than most give him credit for, but he's still not fast. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) I'm going to stick with great. He's got deceptive speed, a great arm, takes good reads, dives a little more than I'd like...but that has to do with his speed. He's faster than most give him credit for, but he's still not THAT fast. He has deceptive speed in the same sense that Thome does. They're both faster than they look, but they're not fast at all. QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) Dye's offense has been awesome, there's no question. However, why do people keep saying he has a cannon for an arm? He hasn't thrown out anyone at 3rd or home this season, and teams are definitely being aggressive on the bases against him. He stills has a gun. But, Vlad still has a gun, and he does nothing with it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan76 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) Fixed Thanks. He stole 11 bases last season. I don't care if you "know how to steal a base" (as Hawk would say) or not, you need some speed to steal 11 bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 06:16 PM) He stole 11 bases last season. I don't care if you "know how to steal a base" (as Hawk would say) or not, you need some speed to steal 11 bases. No, not really. Albert Pujols had almost 20 steals last season, and he doesn't have much speed. Even Bonds has a couple of steals this season, and my grandma is faster than him now. If you're going to use speed to judge stolen bases, then Joey Gathright and his 15 steals must not have blazing speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 10:20 AM) Strengths: Great reads; is rarely taken offguard. Strong, accurate arm Weaknesses: Absolutely no makeup speed. Appears slower than hell running after fly balls to his left. Agreed, although his arm accuracy is marginal at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Jermaine Dye has a $6M team option next year, he currently has a 1.030 OPS. Anyone who doesn't think Jermaine Dye will be on this team next season is dead wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 12:40 PM) I'd rather have him play LF. That's my stance on him. hes got a great Arm, so id rather keep him in RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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