Milkman delivers Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:07 PM) Imo, this isn't on Garcia. He's kept them in the game and while he's sucked this inning, prior to this most of it was on the defense. Oh and giving up hits to Teahen is not something I can really gripe about considering the guy was the best offensive player in the month of july. Well, if we have to give guys credit for "only" pitching one bad inning and still losing, or winning games where they give up like 6 runs, I'll blame Garcia for giving up too many runs to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(Allsox @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:08 AM) Another thing that killed them was not playing some smartball early on, especially with Jim and paulie out. There was no reason why Cintron shouldn't have tried a suicide squeeze in that 3rd with runners on the corners and one out. With Freddy on the mound, you try and break the game open. Playing for one run that early on usually leads to you regretting not getting more runs later in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 does anyone else agree with me that Ozzie put that guy on so he can have a righty on righty matchup? It doesn't make sense to set up a force because there were two outs, but why do it in the 7th inning witha guy who has been on base all night? Why not just bring in the lefty? What's wrong with pitching to shane Costa. Whatever Ozzie.:headshake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:06 PM) oh fudge. little late ozzie Ozzie needs to take a class this offseason. How to recognize fatigue in your starting pitcher. 1.) Chapter one. Dont trust your pitchers verbal responses to your questions. Trust me, wait until Saturday when Vazquez is having the same discussion with Ozzie in the 6th. And Ozzie leaves him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:10 AM) does anyone else agree with me that Ozzie put that guy on so he can have a righty on righty matchup? It doesn't make sense to set up a force because there were two outs, but why do it in the 7th inning witha guy who has been on base all night? Why not just bring in the lefty? What's wrong with pitching to shane Costa. Whatever Ozzie.:headshake: You know I agree. I've seen this same old story far too much with him leaving a guy in to try and get them in a chance to get the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him Yeah, it's called "managing," and it's not a special situation for Ozzie. It's how every manager is seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) does anyone else agree with me that Ozzie put that guy on so he can have a righty on righty matchup? It doesn't make sense to set up a force because there were two outs, but why do it in the 7th inning witha guy who has been on base all night? Why not just bring in the lefty? What's wrong with pitching to shane Costa. Whatever Ozzie.:headshake: Why would you pitch to Teahan but walk Cosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Two more innings to do damage, rain-willing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:10 AM) ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him You can remove Ozzie's name and change that to any sport at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) Yeah, it's called "managing," and it's not a special situation for Ozzie. It's how every manager is seen. Completely agree, except in the case of the Packers. Mike Sherman sucked, period. If they won, it was the team, if they lost, Sherman was an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Redemption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I hope freddy looks better vs NY next week yes! pointless solo homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Uribe crushed that, 5-3 now and the Royals are giong to the pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him that's every manager/coach.... and don't get me wrong, i'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to ragging on managers and coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 gosh darn, if Brian got on, Uribe could have made this game ours. I knew he would too, hes pissed from that spiffty error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick0984 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) I hope freddy looks better vs NY next week yes! pointless solo homer i prefer that over a leadoff triple and we leave him stranded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ozzie would've let Hudson give up two more singles before going to the pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him It's like that with all managers and NFL coaches. That's why they need a thick skin and why they get paid a lot of dough. It's always been that way in sports. Everybody thinks they can do better than the manager/coach. It'll never change. Good managers realize that and don't stress about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nice shot by Juan there. He seems to have taken the first pitch in most of his ab's today. QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) yes! pointless solo homer Pointless? Are you kidding me? The Sox had something good happen, CHEER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Lets make them a little nervous. Pods needs to have a good AB here, and then lets see some magic by our 2-3-4-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:10 AM) With Freddy on the mound, you try and break the game open. Playing for one run that early on usually leads to you regretting not getting more runs later in the game. Sox had some momentum going there but Cintron just killed it with that double play. This was a game that required some '05 grinder play but either Ozzie forgot how that went or forgot his own edict about bunting better. Now Uribe homers, that extra run would have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I really hate losing ANY game to the stinko Royals. I posted this last night and we rallied to win in extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:13 AM) Ozzie would've let Hudson give up two more singles before going to the pen. He wouldn't have known what to do...a starting pitcher in the 8th inning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) ozzie seems to be one of those managers where if things are going well he's a genious, and if the team starts to slip a little bit its all blamed on him He got a lot of credit when they won. He should get some blame when they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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