Heads22 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I suppose Jermaine can have an off night now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 One great thing Garland did tonight was not hang his head after the big homer in the first. It would have been very easy to become demoralized being down 3-0 against Halladay even with the Sox sporting their A team offense. He kept them at 3. I would never have guessed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Ugh...that wasn't good. Schilling just made some gutsy pitches for Boston to keep the game tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Ya, afterall, take away the first two months of the season and no starter on our staff is even close to him. April - 7.11 ERA May - 5.40 ERA June - 4.50 ERA So basically, he's had only one good month. Than here was last year where he was our best and most consistent pitcher. Then there's every other year of his major league career which have been dog droppings. Without Jon we'd be about 4 more games back. And if he'd pitched this season like a #3 starter instead of a #5 starter, we'd be at least 4 games better in the standings, and still contending for the divison. He's been the only going doing anything in this rotation since the break. That, I'll give you. Compared to the rest of this stinking rotation, he's looked pretty good since the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 spiff like that just kills me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Wow, Dye just hammered it but right at the 2nd baseman for a DP. Thats the second time he's totally creamed the ball with runners on but has had nothing to show. Hopefully AJ can pick him up again. QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 06:10 PM) April - 7.11 ERA May - 5.40 ERA June - 4.50 ERA So basically, he's had only one good month. Then there's every other year of his major league career which have been dog droppings. And if he'd pitched this season like a #3 starter instead of a #5 starter, we'd be at least 4 games better in the standings, and still contending for the divison. That, I'll give you. Compared to the rest of this stinking rotation, he's looked pretty good since the break. Pretty good...aside from Lackey and Liriano I couldn't name a starter in the baseball thats been better than Jon over the past 6 or 8 starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) One great thing Garland did tonight was not hang his head after the big homer in the first. It would have been very easy to become demoralized being down 3-0 against Halladay even with the Sox sporting their A team offense. He kept them at 3. I would never have guessed it. Yeah he did. I thought for sure he'd give up 5 runs by the 5th at that pace. A good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) April - 7.11 ERA May - 5.40 ERA June - 4.50 ERA So basically, he's had only one good month. Then there's every other year of his major league career which have been dog droppings. And if he'd pitched this season like a #3 starter instead of a #5 starter, we'd be at least 4 games better in the standings, and still contending for the divison. That, I'll give you. Compared to the rest of this stinking rotation, he's looked pretty good since the break. I guess 15 wins a year is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Wow, Dye just hammered it but right at the 2nd baseman for a DP. Thats the second time he's totally creamed the ball with runners on but has had nothing to show. Hopefully AJ can pick him up again. Pretty good...aside from Lackey and Liriano I couldn't name a starter in the baseball thats been better than Jon over the past 6 or 8 starts. Yes, and ALL one can say that is good about Garland this season is that he's been good over the last 6-8 starts. That doesn't make up for 3 months of suckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 That's an ugly kid running out that ground ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 lord I hope that doesn't come back to haunt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:12 PM) Yes, and ALL one can say that is good about Garland this season is that he's been good over the last 6-8 starts. That doesn't make up for 3 months of suckage. He only has 3 losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I guess 15 wins a year is crap. If you don't know that pitching wins is as much about run support as it is about pitching, then I really can't have an intelligent debate with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:12 PM) Yes, and ALL one can say that is good about Garland this season is that he's been good over the last 6-8 starts. That doesn't make up for 3 months of suckage. He got 11 wins in one month and only 3 in the suckage months, get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 06:12 PM) Yes, and ALL one can say that is good about Garland this season is that he's been good over the last 6-8 starts. That doesn't make up for 3 months of suckage. doesn't garland have the most wins of any AL pitcher over the last two years? Something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:13 PM) If you don't know that pitching wins is as much about run support as it is about pitching, then I really can't have an intelligent debate with you. He's been dynamite since July. If you can't tell he's a different pitcher lately, that's too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I can't wait to see how the bullpen fairs tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 He got 11 wins in one month and only 3 in the suckage months, get a clue. Garland has been crap this year except for one month. Have you been following the Sox this season. That has been pretty obvious. Anyone who argues about how good a pitcher is by arguing his pitching wins really shouldn't waste their time making an argument at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Have I mentioned I don't like McCarthy as a reliever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Would have liked to see the 1-2-3 of our power guys the last 3 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Why aren't the 95+ MPH guys in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 08:15 PM) Garland has been crap this year except for one month. Have you been following the Sox this season. That has been pretty obvious. Anyone who argues about how good a pitcher is by arguing his pitching wins really shouldn't waste their time making an argument at all. Talking the way you are is going to get you kicked off sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Why aren't the 95+ MPH guys in there? Because velocity is overrated. (But so is McCarthy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Rack em up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Talking the way you are is going to get you kicked off sooner rather than later. Because I'm saying that pointing to pitching wins is a weak argument? Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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