CWSOX45 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) WTF have you been watching all year, Cotts has given up so many go ahead runs when he was in, so has McCarthy over the course. Thorton and Jenks have been are most consistent guys... you need all the arms to win not just 2-3 from the pen. In case you haven't noticed our major problem this year has been our starting rotation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:29 PM) Yep, we've never made BJ Ryan blow a save before. While I am one to not give up until teh final out, that was a one run game in the 9th. We are looking at a 3 run deficet here. I'm gonna get the "Rally Orton" ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) Okay so maybe not most of us. I'm just frustrated Honestly though heads, how many times has he let his starting pitchers in too long? It's happened more times than I can count this year. Get used to it, cause we play 23 games in a row. He knows we need as much as we can get out of the starters because there aren't any breaks for the next 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Agreed. But before those games, he always said I want my pitcher to get the win. In a recent interview, he talked about taking people out on a high note to give them some confidence, and get the team a win. It's 100% obvious he didn't do that today. I finally thought Ozzie was learning how to manage, and it all relapsed today, apparently. You'll be able to follow baseball a lot better if you don't listen to a word the manager/GM/announcers say about how they're going to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) WTF have you been watching all year, Cotts has given up so many go ahead runs when he was in, so has McCarthy over the course. Thorton and Jenks have been are most consistent guys... you need all the arms to win not just 2-3 from the pen. Riske? MacDougal has been great all year. The first 3 months of the year Cotts was good, just like last year, now he has had a rough stretch of games. And no I haven't watched any games this year, this is my first. Haven't been to any either. Edited August 6, 2006 by WHarris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:31 PM) While I am one to not give up until teh final out, that was a one run game in the 9th. We are looking at a 3 run deficet here. I'm gonna get the "Rally Orton" ready! Someone (can't remember who) has a long list in his sig of closers that the Sox have beaten up on this year. The game isn't over until the 27th out (or more ) is recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) In case you haven't noticed our major problem this year has been our starting rotation... Not the discussion we were having, even Stevie Wonder can see that our starters are not to good. Edited August 6, 2006 by Soxpranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) Nice AB for Aj. Very nice. He stayed alive, and got the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) You'll be able to follow baseball a lot better if you don't listen to a word the manager/GM/announcers say about how they're going to play the game. Well, I guess Im just stupid to expect the manager to manage the game correctly, and not blow 20 games wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) Someone (can't remember who) has a long list in his sig of closers that the Sox have beaten up on this year. The game isn't over until the 27th out (or more ) is recorded. It's Pratt. And it's because we've racked up runs on nearly every "elite" closer we've faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) Riske? MacDougal has been great all year. The first 3 months of the year Cotts was good, just like last year, now he has had a rough stretch of games. And no I haven't watched any games this year, this is my first. Haven't been to any either. mcdougal has been on the DL for most part of the year ... Yogi! He's been great rehabbing? Edited August 6, 2006 by Soxpranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) Get used to it, cause we play 23 games in a row. He knows we need as much as we can get out of the starters because there aren't any breaks for the next 3 weeks. I will agree with that, however in the past he's been notorious for not taking them out in the past. There is a reason we acquired Mac, it was to help our starters out, so instead of going 7-8, on certain days where they had trouble they could go 6-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 12:30 PM) I'm sorry, but just fishing quit it. This get's really fishing old, especially when it turns out to be wrong more often than we think. I hope so, but with the bottom of the order coming up here, I'm not brimming with confidence Edited August 6, 2006 by CYGarland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:33 PM) It's Pratt. And it's because we've racked up runs on nearly every "elite" closer we've faced. Thats who I thought it was, but I didn't want to look like an idiot if I was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:33 PM) It's Pratt. And it's because we've racked up runs on nearly every "elite" closer we've faced. We're racked up runs, but we always come one or so short. The game against the Yanks comes to mind. I believe we loaded up the bases, and AJP had an incredible AB but just couldn't get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoyne Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 well at least we will see the top of the order next inning. Maybe Pods can get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) I'm sorry, but just fishing quit it. This get's really fishing old, especially when it turns out to be wrong more often than we think. Don't get upset when they have a point. Ozzie treats his starting pitchers like five-year-olds. As if them getting the wins makes the team play better than if a reliever gets the win instead. I'm waiting for Ozzie to break out the snacks and juice to make the starters feel better, because it's obviously more important to coddle your starting pitchers instead of using your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 It's not over til it's over. Especially with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) Grand Slam by Sweeny today, the future LF of the White Sox, hopefully, in a few years. QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:36 PM) Just like we did against Palepbon, Ryan, Dempster, ect... right? Who HASN'T scored runs against Dumpster? The guy is terrible. Edited August 6, 2006 by TitoMB345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Don't get upset when they have a point. Ozzie treats his starting pitchers like five-year-olds. As if them getting the wins makes the team play better than if a reliever gets the win instead. I'm waiting for Ozzie to break out the snacks and juice to make the starters feel better, because it's obviously more important to coddle your starting pitchers instead of using your brain. Maybe we should hope Ozzie starts to acquire some relievers that are his "buddies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:35 PM) Eddie Guardado, Huston Street, BJ Ryan, Fernando Rodney, Bob Wickman, Brad Lidge, Ryan Dempster, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera, Chris Ray That one was so amazing in person. I still can't believe Gload did that, and I could have sworn that the outfielder caught it, or was at least incredibly close (which replays on sportscenter later proved me wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) Who HASN'T scored runs against Dumpster? The guy is terrible. Just stop....please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) mcdougal has been on the DL for most part of the year ... Yogi! He's been great rehabbing? Yup, and now MacDougal is healthy and has given up 1 run in 8 innings. From opening day to July 31st Cotts had an ERA of 3.14. From opening day last year to 7/31/06 he had an ERA of 2.44. I, for one, won't give up on Neal for a bad stretch of games. Since being acquired by the Sox Riske has an ERA of 3.18. He hasn't been incredible, but solid and reliable. The only guy I consider shaky is BMac, and he isn't all the bad. How does our bullpen suck again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 Nice call, Hawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Can o' corn Can o' corn Can o' corn Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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