whitesoxin' Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 If Buehrle threw 8 innings of one run ball while striking out 13 there would have been a thread. Am I the only one who is an avid fan of Vazquez? If he can keep this up and stay pitching to his potential, we are going to be even more feared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) If Buehrle threw 8 innings of one run ball while striking out 13 there would have been a thread. Am I the only one who is an avid fan of Vazquez? If he can keep this up and stay pitching to his potential, we are going to be even more feared. There is a reason Buehrle gets a lot more love than Vaz. Anyways, today was special but it's just a start. He needs to do this for at least 3-4 more starts before I get overly excited about him. Unbelievable performance today though, no doubt. Edited August 6, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 01:13 AM) There is a reason Buehrle gets a lot more love than Vaz. Anyways, today was special but it's just a start. He needs to do this for at least 3-4 more starts befor I get overly excited about him. Unbelievable performance today though, no doubt. Yeah I know there's a reason, but it was still great to see. If he reverts to old Javier I would be shocked and highly disappointed. He is going to finish this season strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawa_sox Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I got home from work at midnight and just finished watching the game on tape. WOW, what a performance. Perhaps the best start of the year by any Sox hurler. And it wasn't against a bunch of chumps. A think he needs to follow this one up with another and then his doubts should take a back seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 It's his first quality start in a month and a half Hell of a start, but I'm not gonna love him cuz of 1 great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) If Buehrle threw 8 innings of one run ball while striking out 13 there would have been a thread. Am I the only one who is an avid fan of Vazquez? If he can keep this up and stay pitching to his potential, we are going to be even more feared. Mark has been, well, Mark since 2001. Not a good comparison. However, Javy, IMO, had the best single start of any of our starters this year. That was pure, filthy dominance. Now, the trick will be to string 3 or 4 of these type of starts together. Edited August 6, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:09 AM) Mark has been, well, Mark since 2001. Not a good comparison. However, Javy, IMO, had the best single start of any of our starters this year. That was pure, filthy dominance. Now, the trick will be to string 3 or 4 of these type of starts together. And then to convince Garcia to try and do the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:11 AM) And then to convince Garcia to try and do the same thing Man, I'm probably the most optimistic person on this board ( well, outside of Jphat, Heads and Kap), but I don't see it happening for Freddy. It would be different if it was just mental. But dude's stuff just isn't there. It hasn't been all year. I'm happy when Freddy can give us 6 innings and 4 earned runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:16 AM) Man, I'm probably the most optimistic person on this board ( well, outside of Jphat, Heads and Kap), but I don't see it happening for Freddy. It would be different if it was just mental. But dude's stuff just isn't there. It hasn't been all year. I'm happy when Freddy can give us 6 innings and 4 earned runs. It really is sad. It's hard to figure out WTF exactly happened too, and that's the worst part of it. Just gotta hope he has some trade value left come the offseason, because I am not sure how exactly he could be on this team come next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 13 strikeouts was pretty impressive. Shocking but impressive also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 He gets props for today, love if he keeps it up through October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:16 AM) Man, I'm probably the most optimistic person on this board ( well, outside of Jphat, Heads and Kap), but I don't see it happening for Freddy. It would be different if it was just mental. But dude's stuff just isn't there. It hasn't been all year. I'm happy when Freddy can give us 6 innings and 4 earned runs. I agree, but DAMN, if the Sox can get Jose, Mark, Jon and Javy to throw well on a regular basis that 8 game lead ain't so safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 06:58 PM) I agree, but DAMN, if the Sox can get Jose, Mark, Jon and Javy to throw well on a regular basis that 8 game lead ain't so safe. Especially with the way Detroit's starters have thrown the ball so far in the 2nd half of the season. Javy always had the talent, but he's just got to put the whole package together. Hopefully this is a huge step forward for him, and the guy has some confidence out on the mound knowing "Hey I can get past that 6th inning now". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 ive been gone overseas the last week, so i dont know if this was talked about, but what little info i could get on the team i saw a blurb in the international USA today that said cooper and vazquez had worked out a flaw in his mechanics in a bullpen session...clearly he got something worked out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 08:46 PM) ive been gone overseas the last week, so i dont know if this was talked about, but what little info i could get on the team i saw a blurb in the international USA today that said cooper and vazquez had worked out a flaw in his mechanics in a bullpen session...clearly he got something worked out Yeah that was an article in the Trib saying he changed his arm angle. Hopefully he can continue having success with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Javy needed a game like this. More importantly, the sox needed it. Keep it up now Javy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:16 AM) Man, I'm probably the most optimistic person on this board ( well, outside of Jphat, Heads and Kap), but I don't see it happening for Freddy. It would be different if it was just mental. But dude's stuff just isn't there. It hasn't been all year. I'm happy when Freddy can give us 6 innings and 4 earned runs. How quickly I'm forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Javy's game was certainly impressive, but I thought the home plate ump was also helping him by calling all pitches on and off the edges Ks. Let's see if he can battle mentally through an ump that squeezes the plate. Still, a win is a win, and it would be fabulous if we had one less starter that we had to baby. Gosh, is it possible that Garland, Contreras, Vazquez and Buehrle could all pitch well down the stretch? If so, we ought to be able to help Garcia get some wins too. EVERY GAME IS CRITICAL, OZZIE. PLAY TO WIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I have been riding Javy all year so ill give him props for pitching a hell of a game yesterday. Now lets hope he can keep this going against the yankees. GO JAVY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I watched the game on WGN yesterday and I can attest that Javier Vazquez was absolutely devastating, overpowering, dominating and spectacular. I loved it! And I am as happy for Javier as I am for the Sox as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 03:11 AM) 13 strikeouts was pretty impressive. Shocking but impressive also. It shouldn't be shocking. This is why Javy makes $12 million a year, because he is capable of this sort of effort. This is why Kenny has been after him for so long, and it is why he wasn't given up on and dealt at the deadline. He does need to string performances like this together, and I think he is certainly much more capable of that than we have seen thus far. Here's to hoping he can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) If Buehrle threw 8 innings of one run ball while striking out 13 there would have been a thread. Am I the only one who is an avid fan of Vazquez? If he can keep this up and stay pitching to his potential, we are going to be even more feared. Until he starts doing that on a consistent basis then it gets attributed to "a broken clock is right twice a day", and rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchstretch Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 1, they made a physical change to his delivery which might be effective in it's own right, but might be mentally effective to him as THE thing that worked, like a cap that hasn't been washed in two seasons or Meat wearing ladies underpants in Bull Durham, as long as he believes it's the magic bullet that all that counts 2, watching Ozzie, he, Freddy joke in the dugout after was great to see, Javy must be more relaxed after climbing that hump and being able to finally joke with the mgr about something he's been struggling to do for 3 months. 3, gotta believe he feels relieved of some massive pressure, simply for showing he could in fact do what people have been saying he couldn't....personally I'm expecting a whole new Javy from here on out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 12:55 AM) It's his first quality start in a month and a half Hell of a start, but I'm not gonna love him cuz of 1 great start. I only love him for his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jake @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 02:59 PM) I only love him for his money. But you are always just in it for the money, you whore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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