Top Sox Minor League Pitchers

[aboz56]

Here are updated stats on some of the top pitchers in the Sox organization.

 

- Royce Ring, 1-2 record, 0.59 ERA, 30.1 innings pitched, 40 strikeouts, 9 walks, 19 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Arnaldo Munoz, 1-1 record, 6.94 ERA, 23.1 innings pitched, 30 strikeouts, 13 walks, 25 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Jon Rauch, 2-1 record, 4.31 ERA, 62.2 innings pitched, 45 strikeouts, 14 walks, 56 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Kris Honel, 6-4 record, 2.60 ERA, 69.1 innings pitched, 71 strikeouts, 22 walks, 60 hits allowed at A Winston-Salme

 

- Neal Cotts, 7-2 record, 2.11 ERA, 59.2 innings pitched, 85 strikeouts, 37 walks, 38 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Corwin Malone, 2-2 record, 7.16 ERA, 27.2 innings pitched, 17 strikeouts, 24 walks, 37 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Felix Diaz, 3-4 record, 4.25 ERA, 55.0 innings pitched, 37 strikeouts, 19 walks, 52 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

[Guest hotsoxchick1]

yikes.. all we have to rely on is cotts?????? those stats look like they been playin up here... do we have anyone outstanding reliable at all or did kw trade them all away..............the future isnt lookin so bright.......

[method]

Here are updated stats on some of the top pitchers in the Sox organization.

 

- Royce Ring, 1-2 record, 0.59 ERA, 30.1 innings pitched, 40 strikeouts, 9 walks, 19 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Arnaldo Munoz, 1-1 record, 6.94 ERA, 23.1 innings pitched, 30 strikeouts, 13 walks, 25 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Jon Rauch, 2-1 record, 4.31 ERA, 62.2 innings pitched, 45 strikeouts, 14 walks, 56 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Kris Honel, 6-4 record, 2.60 ERA, 69.1 innings pitched, 71 strikeouts, 22 walks, 60 hits allowed at A Winston-Salme

 

- Neal Cotts, 7-2 record, 2.11 ERA, 59.2 innings pitched, 85 strikeouts, 37 walks, 38 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Corwin Malone, 2-2 record, 7.16 ERA, 27.2 innings pitched, 17 strikeouts, 24 walks, 37 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Felix Diaz, 3-4 record, 4.25 ERA, 55.0 innings pitched,  37 strikeouts, 19 walks, 52 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

Cotts stats are filthy.

[Chisoxfn]

Well Ring's stats are very very good.

[method]

yikes.. all we have to rely on is cotts?????? those stats look like they been playin up here... do we have anyone outstanding reliable at all or did kw trade them all away..............the future isnt lookin so bright.......

Ring and Honel look good as well.

 

Munoz has been pitching very well. He had a couple of bad outings to start the year that screwed up his ERA. (prolly cause of the amount of innings he pitched last year and then in the dominican league)

 

Malone in my personal opnion isnt gonna make it. I was hoping he was one we would trade... atleast when his stock was high.... Maybe we could've kept my boy kip... but thats a differnt topic, one i shouldnt get started on.

 

I have no clue about Diaz. And rauch is a lost cause as well.

[Guest JimH]

Rauch is a lost cause? I'm sorry, but that's overdramatizing a bit.

 

His control is much much better than last year ... 14 walks in 62 innings is outstanding. Last year he had some control problems because of the way he was handled. He's also allowing less than a hit per inning.

 

This is a 24 year old who came off shoulder surgery and was handled poorly last year. It's mid-June, his control is back in form and his velocity is coming back nicely, per a couple Charlotte fans I've talked to. I'd say that's pretty decent progress.

 

To say he'll be a front of the rotation starter might be stretching it, but to say he's a lost cause is surely stretching it.

[method]

Rauch is a lost cause?  I'm sorry, but that's overdramatizing a bit.

 

His control is much much better than last year ... 14 walks in 62 innings is outstanding.  Last year he had some control problems because of the way he was handled.  He's also allowing less than a hit per inning.

 

This is a 24 year old who came off shoulder surgery and was handled poorly last year.  It's mid-June, his control is back in form and his velocity is coming back nicely, per a couple Charlotte fans I've talked to. I'd say that's pretty decent progress.

 

To say he'll be a front of the rotation starter might be stretching it, but to say he's a lost cause is surely stretching it.

Fair nuff.

 

I just personally dont think hes gonna cut it. I was never very high on either him or Malone though...

[Guest JimH]

Please add Ryan Wing into the mix, a lefty who was a 2nd round choice two years ago I believe.

 

He's doing extremely well in A ball and he's either 20 or 21.

 

I'm not being a pollyanna optimist here but to say the cupboard is bare is going overboard.

[Guest JimH]

Method, I share more of your opinion on Malone, I'm very concerned about him. Ulacia too. Both of those guys seem to have regressed. Malone, when healthy, has a good arm (big caveat, huh?) but his mental makeup seems to be in question.

 

Ulacia appears like he's a bit of loose cannon too. He's regressed, and Rex said he fractured his hand punching the ground after he gave up a hit ... and promptly went on the DL.

 

Can you say "DOH!!!"

[method]

Method, I share more of your opinion on Malone, I'm very concerned about him.  Ulacia too.  Both of those guys seem to have regressed.  Malone, when healthy, has a good arm (big caveat, huh?) but his mental makeup seems to be in question.

 

Ulacia appears like he's a bit of loose cannon too.  He's regressed, and Rex said he fractured his hand punching the ground after he gave up a hit ... and promptly went on the DL.

 

Can you say "DOH!!!"

Yikes!

 

Remember Aaron myette? he did the same after a bad outing..

 

One thing to be compitetor... but those two(ulica being the other) take it a bit too far...

[Chisoxfn]

Method, I share more of your opinion on Malone, I'm very concerned about him.  Ulacia too.  Both of those guys seem to have regressed.  Malone, when healthy, has a good arm (big caveat, huh?) but his mental makeup seems to be in question.

 

Ulacia appears like he's a bit of loose cannon too.  He's regressed, and Rex said he fractured his hand punching the ground after he gave up a hit ... and promptly went on the DL.

 

Can you say "DOH!!!"

I think Malone still has a chance. He's so raw. He had that one amazing season and thats what he can do if he gets things together. The Sox have a lot to do with him though.

 

I think with Rauch he will make it. I think he's got a really good curve, a decent slider and a solid fastball. He's got to develop all of his pitches though where he can really hone them, plus add a solid change to the repetoire. Its too bad he lost so much velocity after the surgery and thus far I haven't heard him regaining much of it, although I'm glad to know that Jim has heard good things from people in Charlotte.

[method]

I guess i am a bit more negative then most....

 

The way i see it is 90% of of em wont make it. they might contribute... but they wont really make it big....

 

There is a good reason front of the line starters are so rare... therefore i guess i judge em a bit harsher then others would...

 

 

know what i mean?

[Rex Hudler]

Please add Ryan Wing into the mix, a lefty who was a 2nd round choice two years ago I believe.

 

He's doing extremely well in A ball and he's either 20 or 21.

 

I'm not being a pollyanna optimist here but to say the cupboard is bare is going overboard.

I agree. You have very solid prospects in Cotts, Munoz, Ring, Honel, and Wing (not counting others at lower levels).

 

You have a next tier of prospects which are a little less of a sure thing but still have possibility of being good in Rauch, Diaz, Phillips, Allen, An, Pacheco, and Yofu.

 

Then you have guys like Malone and West who although injuries and struggles have lowered their status, could make it if everything eventually comes together for them.

 

I know I am missing some (Bajaneru and Bullard, etc.) that could be on one of the above lists as well.

 

I think that is about as solid of a list as most teams could come up with.

[Rex Hudler]

I guess i am a bit more negative then most....

 

The way i see it is 90% of of em wont make it. they might contribute... but they wont really make it big....

 

There is a good reason front of the line starters are so rare... therefore i guess i judge em a bit harsher then others would...

 

 

know what i mean?

But you can say the same thing about most any MLB team, because of the very same reasoning.

 

I wouldn't be pessimistic about the Sox young arms at all.

[Chisoxfn]

Please add Ryan Wing into the mix, a lefty who was a 2nd round choice two years ago I believe.

 

He's doing extremely well in A ball and he's either 20 or 21.

 

I'm not being a pollyanna optimist here but to say the cupboard is bare is going overboard.

I agree. You have very solid prospects in Cotts, Munoz, Ring, Honel, and Wing (not counting others at lower levels).

 

You have a next tier of prospects which are a little less of a sure thing but still have possibility of being good in Rauch, Diaz, Phillips, Allen, An, Pacheco, and Yofu.

 

Then you have guys like Malone and West who although injuries and struggles have lowered their status, could make it if everything eventually comes together for them.

 

I know I am missing some (Bajaneru and Bullard, etc.) that could be on one of the above lists as well.

 

I think that is about as solid of a list as most teams could come up with.

I agree with you. Wing is really good and I still am amazed he never gets talked about, but I guess its kind of good that he doesn't get hyped cause then people won't expect a whole lot out of him and be ready to give up on him after two starts where he isn't up to par.

 

Wing, Rauch, Munoz, Ring, Diaz, Cotts, Phillips. Rauch, Allen, West, Malone, etc. All these guys have good stuff and can get things done. Most of these guys won't make it or will have sometype of set back. By make it I mean become a really good player, but the potential is there for each and everyone of them. I know I left plenty of guys out too, such as Honel, good thing I remembered him, lol.

[Soxfest]

Here are updated stats on some of the top pitchers in the Sox organization.

 

- Royce Ring, 1-2 record, 0.59 ERA, 30.1 innings pitched, 40 strikeouts, 9 walks, 19 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Arnaldo Munoz, 1-1 record, 6.94 ERA, 23.1 innings pitched, 30 strikeouts, 13 walks, 25 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Jon Rauch, 2-1 record, 4.31 ERA, 62.2 innings pitched, 45 strikeouts, 14 walks, 56 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

 

- Kris Honel, 6-4 record, 2.60 ERA, 69.1 innings pitched, 71 strikeouts, 22 walks, 60 hits allowed at A Winston-Salme

 

- Neal Cotts, 7-2 record, 2.11 ERA, 59.2 innings pitched, 85 strikeouts, 37 walks, 38 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Corwin Malone, 2-2 record, 7.16 ERA, 27.2 innings pitched, 17 strikeouts, 24 walks, 37 hits allowed at AA Birmingham

 

- Felix Diaz, 3-4 record, 4.25 ERA, 55.0 innings pitched,  37 strikeouts, 19 walks, 52 hits allowed at AAA Charlotte

Munoz ..ouch babe

[Rex Hudler]

Munoz is fine. He has only had 4 bad outings all year and three were in his first four appearances in early April. He has been almost untouchable since.

[Soxfest]

Munoz is fine.  He has only had 4 bad outings all year and three were in his first four appearances in early April.  He has been almost untouchable since.

To still have a 6.94 ERA he must of really been HAMMERED in those 4 outings

[Rex Hudler]

To still have a 6.94 ERA he must of really been HAMMERED in those 4 outings

He absolutely got hammered. Here is the day-by-day for Arnie. I think you will see that since the first week of the season, he has been quite stellar with one bad outing.

 

 

DATE     G#  OPP  H/R DEC GS GF CG    IP   H   AB  TBF   R   ER HR  BB  SO WP BK

04/03/03     RMD   H                 0.2   4    6    7   5    5  2   1   1      

04/06/03     RMD   H                 2.0   5   10   12   4    4      2   2      

04/12/03     IND   R                 0.1   1    2    3   1                      

04/15/03     LOU   H                 2.0   3    9   10   3    3  2   1   2      

04/19/03  2  IND   H          1      1.0        3    3                          

04/29/03     DUR   H                 0.2   1    3    3   1    1                 

05/01/03     ROC   H                 1.0        3    3                   2      

05/04/03     ROC   H                 1.2        5    5                   3      

05/05/03     SYR   H   W      1      0.2        1    1                   1      

05/07/03  1  SYR   H                 0.2        2    2                          

05/07/03  2  SYR   H                 0.1        1    2   1    1      1          

05/09/03     TOL   R                 0.2   1    4    4   1               2      

05/14/03     COL   R          1      1.1        3    5               2          

05/16/03     COL   R          1      1.0   1    4    4                      1   

05/18/03  2  SWB   H                 1.0   1    4    4                          

05/20/03     SWB   H                 0.2   1    3    3                   2      

05/27/03     DUR   R                 1.0        3    3                   2      

05/28/03     DUR   H   S      1      0.1        1    1                   1  1   

05/30/03     SWB   R                 0.2   1    3    5   3           2   1  1   

06/01/03  2  SWB   R   L             0.2   3    5    6   3    3      1          

06/06/03     ROC   R          1      2.0   2    7    9   1    1      2   5      

06/09/03     OTT   R                 2.2   1    9   10               1   6      

06/12/03     COL   H          1      0.1        1    1                          
 

            W- L- S   ERA GP    IP   H   AB   AVG  TBF   R  ER HR  BB  SO WP BK

TOTALS      1- 1- 1  6.94 23  23.1  25   92  .272  106  23  18  4  13  30  3  0

[Rex Hudler]

Take out the first two weeks of the season (including his good outing mixed in there) and his numbers would look like this....

 

2.97 ERA

18.2 IP

13 H

6 ER

9 BB

25 K

 

Those numbers are more than respectable, and arguably excellent.

[Bmr31]

Take out the first two weeks of the season (including his good outing mixed in there) and his numbers would look like this....

 

2.97 ERA

18.2 IP

13    H

6      ER

9      BB

25    K

 

Those numbers are more than respectable, and arguably excellent.

Yeah it would be nice if we could ALL take out our bad days. LOL give me a break.

[Rex Hudler]

Take out the first two weeks of the season (including his good outing mixed in there) and his numbers would look like this....

 

2.97 ERA

18.2 IP

13    H

6      ER

9      BB

25    K

 

Those numbers are more than respectable, and arguably excellent.

Yeah it would be nice if we could ALL take out our bad days. LOL give me a break.

Bmr, it doesn't surprise me one bit that you can't figure out that it is legit to look inside a guy's numbers. But your ass is so buried in them that you can't see the big picture.

 

If you can't see that a bad stretch that is isolated like his was, has to be factored in, then you are an idiot.

 

Would you rather have a guy that gives up a few runs all the time and sports a 6+ ERA or one that had a tough stretch and has gotten his s*** together? If you have ANY baseball sense, you'll understand that is a rhetorical question because there is only one right answer.

[Bmr31]

Take out the first two weeks of the season (including his good outing mixed in there) and his numbers would look like this....

 

2.97 ERA

18.2 IP

13    H

6      ER

9      BB

25    K

 

Those numbers are more than respectable, and arguably excellent.

Yeah it would be nice if we could ALL take out our bad days. LOL give me a break.

Bmr, it doesn't surprise me one bit that you can't figure out that it is legit to look inside a guy's numbers. But your ass is so buried in them that you can't see the big picture.

 

If you can't see that a bad stretch that is isolated like his was, has to be factored in, then you are an idiot.

 

Would you rather have a guy that gives up a few runs all the time and sports a 6+ ERA or one that had a tough stretch and has gotten his s*** together? If you have ANY baseball sense, you'll understand that is a rhetorical question because there is only one right answer.

Id rather have a guy who is consistent, with a low whip and era.

[Rex Hudler]

And Munoz has for the last two months of the season.

 

Go back to your fantasy world, because I am now convinced you have no clue what happens on a real baseball field and with real players.

[Bmr31]

And Munoz has for the last two months of the season. 

 

Go back to your fantasy world, because I am now convinced you have no clue what happens on a real baseball field and with real players.

Congrats!!! Sorry dude, i dont have the strength or will to "fight" with anyone tonight or anytime soon.