Friend of Nordhagen Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) As someone else on this site has noted, Vazquez is the momentum killer. Hey Javy, when you come out of the game, throw your mitt against the wall and act real upset. Like always. Because you were trash. Like always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 We score 1, and then poof Vazquez gives up a 4 spot. I am glad we picked up this guy. I had to look twice to make sure Felix Diaz wasnt out on the bump. This guy sure is the million dollar arm and the ten cent head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I expect Santana to shut us completely down with this cushion. I'd be surprised if we get more than 2 hits the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(G&T @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:15 PM) Nothing is even moving anymore. Everything is nice and flat. He can't believe KW was suckered into believing this perennial loser was going to turn things around for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) As someone else on this site has noted, Vazquez is the momentum killer. He is...go back and check the numbers....he has followed Garland many times...after Garland gets us some momentum, this bum comes out and does this... What the hell is Ozzie doing? Get this bum out of here and get McCarthy stretched out to take this guys role in our rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:13 PM) Time to get this loser out of our rotation...Texas has made a great comeback on Detroit and Santana isn't quite as dominant right now, but leave it to this clod to blow it AGAIN. How many Garland masterpieces has he followed up with trash like this? He's the anti-stopper. I swear to God he's an automatic starter of losing streaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(Wedge @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:15 PM) As bad as Javy was, really the defense didn't help him much. PK's error and two poor decisions on throws from the outfield contributed to this mess, too. For as good as our defense was last year, it has sucked this season. Even plays that aren't being called errors are really putting us in a bad position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) As someone else on this site has noted, Vazquez is the momentum killer. I've been saying he's the "skidder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It is really difficult as a lifelong Sox fan to watch games Vazquez is pitching. You know its just a matter of time. There was little chance of winning this game anyway unless Santana's blister got real bad, but Vazquez took any drama out of it pretty early today. I think Vazquez has had the lead in all but 2 of his starts this season. A good pitcher would be contending for the Cy Young with the support he's gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxyess Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 How much longer do we have to see this pile of crap Vazquez. Instead of throwing a ground ball pitch, he hangs a slider belt high. Unbelieveable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 12:13 PM) We know one thing that is automatic. If Vazquez or Garcia or even Buerhle most of the time now are pitching, and the Sox score in an inning, the opposition will surely score their next AB. When anyone of those guys start, its a crapshoot. Jose and Jon are the only consistent pitchers we have. Its gonna be tough down the stretch thats for sure.........Alright we need to try and chip away here, we still have a SLIGHT chance in this one, but we cant afford to give up anymore runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:16 PM) He's the anti-stopper. I swear to God he's an automatic starter of losing streaks. Here's the question I would love to hear answered: what did McCarthy not do last season that made KW/Ozzie feel like he couldn't be a starting pitcher this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) What the hell is Ozzie doing? Get this bum out of here and get McCarthy stretched out to take this guys role in our rotation. McCarthy into the rotation??? Come on now...he isn't Cy f***ing Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The guys who get hits on Santana, watch them they are purposely trying to take his fastball into right. When they get a change they pul it and still put good wood on it. Guys who only pull for the most part, the Konerkos of the world look foolish because they are still trying to pull and park the fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 come on, seriously, how many of you really thought Javier was going to beat Johan today? We needed a win Friday to have any chance of winning this series. I'm just glad we didn't get swept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) When anyone of those guys start, its a crapshoot. Jose and Jon are the only consistent pitchers we have. Its gonna be tough down the stretch thats for sure.........Alright we need to try and chip away here, we still have a SLIGHT chance in this one, but we cant afford to give up anymore runs Contreras has been anything but consistent over the past few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) For as good as our defense was last year, it has sucked this season. Even plays that aren't being called errors are really putting us in a bad position. Mental mistakes. There were two that inning, by throwing to the wrong base, it took away DP chances and made the inning worse. Luckily the play at home saved a run, but those mistakes are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UC76 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm officially done with Vazquez. I've been patient and hoped he'd find his groove. I've tried to be positive. But the dude sucks. Sucks. I want him gone. Now. I don't know about stretching out McCarthy this year, though I wouldn't be opposed. But it might be asking a lot. But there is no way Vazquez can be back in 2007. Dude is garbage. Absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) It is really difficult as a lifelong Sox fan to watch games Vazquez is pitching. You know its just a matter of time. There was little chance of winning this game anyway unless Santana's blister got real bad, but Vazquez took any drama out of it pretty early today. I think Vazquez has had the lead in all but 2 of his starts this season. A good pitcher would be contending for the Cy Young with the support he's gotten. Cant totally blame Javy for this one, PK has had a rough game, and Pablo's D in LF has been far from impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(G&T @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) Mental mistakes. There were two that inning, by throwing to the wrong base, it took away DP chances and made the inning worse. Luckily the play at home saved a run, but those mistakes are ridiculous. If Tim Raines is in charge of our base running and outfield defense this season, then I'm thrilled he's not being brought back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) McCarthy into the rotation??? Come on now...he isn't Cy f***ing Young. And he's not Javy f***ing Vazquez either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Texas takes the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) Cant totally blame Javy for this one, PK has had a rough game, and Pablo's D in LF has been far from impressive. He still gave up 4 rocket hits that inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) And he's not Javy f***ing Vazquez either. I was being sarcastic. Paraphrasing Ozzie Gullien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 12:18 PM) Contreras has been anything but consistent over the past few months. Much more than the rest of those guys. Except Freddy, he's usually consistent at pitching 6 innings and giving up 4 runs Edited August 20, 2006 by CYGarland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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