southsideirish71 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:55 PM) I dont think their choking, they just don't have IT right now. It has nothing to do with IT. Its to do with a mathmatical formula. Our hitters are trying to pull everything in sight for whatever reason. Our pitchers are throwing low and away, its almost like they are trying to pitch to our hitters. And with Mackowiak in CF do we really believe in D. Our young CF is hitting over 290 since what June, and he needs to rest like every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 so who is going to write the "DONT WORRY GUYS, WE WILL COME BACK" thread tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:56 PM) A trade deadline Yankees get Abreu-get hot Dodgers get Maddux-get hot We get nothing-thats 17-22 folks It would be explainable if we were good at the deadline Lidle was a huge pick up for the Bronx Bombers. He's a journeyman who pitches pretty well when he has a lot of runs to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 12:56 AM) A trade deadline Yankees get Abreu-get hot Dodgers get Maddux-get hot We get nothing-thats 17-22 folks It would be explainable if we were good at the deadline LOL -- Maddux would get rocked in the AL. He might have a couple week grace period, but AL teams would smoke his 85 MPH junk as much as they do Freddy's (heh -- no pun intended). The reason we suck is because our five starters are s***, not because we didn't make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:56 PM) A trade deadline Yankees get Abreu-get hot Dodgers get Maddux-get hot We get nothing-thats 17-22 folks It would be explainable if we were good at the deadline But KW asked Paulie and company if they needed anything. And they looked around and said we can win it with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Are there any figures available on how much, if anything, the team made on sales of LDS, LCS and World Series merchandise last year? If it was substantial, wouldnt that have warranted some deadline activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:49 PM) AJ -- I think I have a good idea on how to get Monroe out. Throw a fastball, preferable 85-87 MPH, on the inside corner. I have not seen this bastard, Monroe, hit an opposite field shot against us ALL YEAR. OMFG. Look at his hit chart at Comerica. HE HASN'T HIT A f***ING OPPOSITE FIELD SHOT ALL YEAR AT COMERICA. Why this team INSISTS on pitching him inside, and going away to slap hitters like Vance Wilson, Jason Tyner, and Pudge Rodriguez is BEYOND ME. This is absolutely un-f***ing-real. From what I've observed, Monroe crowds the plate. Watch when he's preparing himself at the plate -- his bat covers a sizeable portion of the outside corner. Enough room is left to pull. It's a similar concept to David Ortiz. I realize they aren't comparable on a talent level , but as far as identifying a weakness, one would believe it's outside. How many opposite field HR's have you recalled him hitting? I honestly can't remember one. I'm sure a hitting chart would support me. Both hitters crowd plates and compensate outside corners fairly well. Considering Contreras plunked several batters, he may have been reluctant to pitch Monroe in. Edited August 22, 2006 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) They've got to carry us until these damn pitchers come around. There not going to come around, the offense is the only chance we have, and they better get it going FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A trade deadline Yankees get Abreu-get hot Dodgers get Maddux-get hot We get nothing-thats 17-22 folks It would be explainable if we were good at the deadline Oh give me a break. Abreu would only waive his NTC for Mets, Yankees and someone else Maddux did not have a NTC but Jim Hungry had a handshake deal with him saying he would not trade him unless Maddux wanted him to and he got to choose the team. You can thank the Garbage NL and AL West for making this a sellers' market for the second year in a row. Jeez Pods. try to show some heart please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 12:58 AM) so who is going to write the "DONT WORRY GUYS, WE WILL COME BACK" thread tonight? Greg Hibbard If you read this Mr. Hibbard, I'm just kidding. Your post was well thought out today, even if I disagreed with the tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) Are there any figures available on how much, if anything, the team made on sales of LDS, LCS and World Series merchandise last year? If it was substantial, wouldnt that have warranted some deadline activity? Ticket prices are rising significantly in 2007 and people will be locked in with how they wisely put together the postseason ticket policy. They will have a lot of money to work with next season. They will throw it into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 05:57 PM) It has nothing to do with IT. Its to do with a mathmatical formula. Our hitters are trying to pull everything in sight for whatever reason. Our pitchers are throwing low and away, its almost like they are trying to pitch to our hitters. And with Mackowiak in CF do we really believe in D. Our young CF is hitting over 290 since what June, and he needs to rest like every 3rd day Basically, their not playing well. Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) Never said I wasn't "worried" about them. Some were giving them the pennant as soon as they got Abreu. Their pitching is still suspect. But as of "right now" they're the favorites. So you weren't "worried" about them despite them being the favorites? Is that different than being worried about them? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 12:59 AM) Are there any figures available on how much, if anything, the team made on sales of LDS, LCS and World Series merchandise last year? If it was substantial, wouldnt that have warranted some deadline activity? We increased our payroll a ton this year. It might be the one thing I can't find anything to complain about. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 12:59 AM) Oh give me a break. Abreu would only waive his NTC for Mets, Yankees and someone else Maddux did not have a NTC but Jim Hungry had a handshake deal with him saying he would not trade him unless Maddux wanted him to and he got to choose the team. You can thank the Garbage NL and AL West for making this a sellers' market for the second year in a row. Jeez Pods. try to show some heart please. I'd be willing to bet Abreu would play for Ozzie. They're very close friends, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) There not going to come around, the offense is the only chance we have, and they better get it going FAST Then we're done. We're not gonna hit our way to the playoffs. Even if we do, will get knocked out in round 1. The pitching has to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 08:01 PM) We increased our payroll a ton this year. It might be the one thing I can't find anything to complain about. That's right. You can't call the White Sox cheap anymore, not that it was really fair to call them cheap before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 01:02 AM) Then we're done. We're not gonna hit our way to the playoffs. Even if we do, will get knocked out in round 1. The pitching has to get better. Well, I'll take our chances in the postseason. I'd rather lose every game 15-0 then to not make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Still no BMac warming... hope...rising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 01:02 AM) That's right. You can't call the White Sox cheap anymore, not that it was really fair to call them cheap before. Maybe it we were cheaper, we wouldn't have done the Vazquez deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 08:02 PM) Then we're done. We're not gonna hit our way to the playoffs. Even if we do, will get knocked out in round 1. The pitching has to get better. You're right. If the pitching continues like this, even if the playoffs are made, its going to be a quick exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 It's nice to see the good people of the fine city of Detroit enjoying their team. It's a nice reprieve from crack and welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Well the Cleveland Indians who are not in it this year because of their pitching, will be passing our pitching numbers by the end of the week. This is with gascan Carmona closing things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) Then we're done. We're not gonna hit our way to the playoffs. Even if we do, will get knocked out in round 1. The pitching has to get better. The only way were going to win this thing, is if a couple of our starters get Hot, and the offense starts mashing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Our offense averages 5.62 runs per game on the season. They're averaging 4.84 runs per game in August. I bet no one could see this slump coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 22, 2006 -> 01:03 AM) You're right. If the pitching continues like this, even if the playoffs are made, its going to be a quick exit. It's just amazing how many times a week a starting pitcher gives up 5 or 6 runs in their outing. As you said earlier, don't you think they'd have a fluke week where they all pitched well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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