southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) I hope you aren't suggesting we have a good bullpen. Maybe we should just forfeit then. I mean if you are suggesting we cant pull our 7 run hurt pitcher because of fear of the pen, maybe we should just quit, and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:38 PM) So why is he out there when we have +2 arms in the bullpen now? How can anyone defend ozzie's decisions? I'm hoping there's a mutiny in the dugout soon Really wahts it matter. Its not like he's throwing a gazillion pitches. We are gonna lose either way, so who cares. Jose had yet another worthless start too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I wish if he's really hurt we just put him on the DL. Get rid of him til next year. If he's on the staff he's got to be able to go 5 innings or 6. I mean my god, is five innings too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:29 PM) Add me to your club. Pronto. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 "Let's go down to the dugout for a chat with Ozzie and Joey. How are you tonight fellahs?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:43 PM) Really wahts it matter. Its not like he's throwing a gazillion pitches. We are gonna lose either way, so who cares. Jose had yet another worthless start too. Jas if he is hurt, what is the point of having a hurt pitcher throw more pitches. You know what happens when a pitcher gets hurt outside of his arm. They f*** up their mechanics, and then compensate to make the pain go away, like Jose's sidearm. And what usually is the outcome of a pitcher going out of their mechanics. Surgery for their shoulder or elbow. QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:43 PM) I wish if he's really hurt we just put him on the DL. Get rid of him til next year. If he's on the staff he's got to be able to go 5 innings or 6. I mean my god, is five innings too much to ask. He can go 5 innings. It just how many touchdowns do you want your offense to come back from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I just want to say one thing for all of you saying Jose is still hurt. If he is hurt and the Sox are not putting him on the DL they are obviously one of the most ignorant, dumbass organizations in all of baseball. Why would we be sitting out there throwing out a piece of s*** pitcher (which is almost what Jose is right now) if we knew his struggles were do to an injury. Wouldn't we have thrown him on the DL weeks ago and given McCarthy a chance knowing that we could in time get Jose healthy and have him ready for the stretch run. I'm sorry, this injury claim really makes no sense cause I can't think (and I think Ozzie's a f***ing idiot) that Kenny would be dumb enough to do something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:44 PM) "Let's go down to the dugout for a chat with Ozzie and Joey. How are you tonight fellahs?" Thats awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Not defending Jose too much but wasn't one of the six runs that inning earned? The rest caused by the bad defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:45 PM) Jas if he is hurt, what is the point of having a hurt pitcher throw more pitches. You know what happens when a pitcher gets hurt outside of his arm. They f*** up their mechanics, and then compensate to make the pain go away, like Jose's sidearm. And what usually is the outcome of a pitcher going out of their mechanics. Surgery for their shoulder or elbow. He can go 5 innings. It just how many touchdowns do you want your offense to come back from. I don't buy into the theory that he's hurt though. I just made a post better explaining myself on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I don't think the Yankees will be calling Coop this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:45 PM) I just want to say one thing for all of you saying Jose is still hurt. If he is hurt and the Sox are not putting him on the DL they are obviously one of the most ignorant, dumbass organizations in all of baseball. Why would we be sitting out there throwing out a piece of s*** pitcher (which is almost what Jose is right now) if we knew his struggles were do to an injury. Wouldn't we have thrown him on the DL weeks ago and given McCarthy a chance knowing that we could in time get Jose healthy and have him ready for the stretch run. I'm sorry, this injury claim really makes no sense cause I can't think (and I think Ozzie's a f***ing idiot) that Kenny would be dumb enough to do something like that. I feel the same way. Maybe Jose is having Cotts-Syndrome. The opposing hitters have figured him out, and he keeps throwing meatballs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) Sure because Anderson never has caught a liner in the gap. Never this year. Another thing, Anderson positions himself a hell of a lot better. And has natural instincts off the crack of the bat. The ball DeJesus hit was a screamer and wasnt all that high. Put the blame where it belongs, on Contreras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:45 PM) I just want to say one thing for all of you saying Jose is still hurt. If he is hurt and the Sox are not putting him on the DL they are obviously one of the most ignorant, dumbass organizations in all of baseball. Why would we be sitting out there throwing out a piece of s*** pitcher (which is almost what Jose is right now) if we knew his struggles were do to an injury. Wouldn't we have thrown him on the DL weeks ago and given McCarthy a chance knowing that we could in time get Jose healthy and have him ready for the stretch run. I'm sorry, this injury claim really makes no sense cause I can't think (and I think Ozzie's a f***ing idiot) that Kenny would be dumb enough to do something like that. Farmer, Bill Melton, and others have stated that they believe that Jose is hurt. Also Steve Stone stated that him dropping down could take pressure off of his back. He hasnt been the same since he had the siatica. He had a epidural. Maybe it still bothers him. Why all of a sudden woudl a pitcher drop down all the time to righties. If he is healthy dont you think Cooper would of consulted video and just had him stay high. I think his back is bothering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I don't think the Sox know if Jose is hurt or not. Jose might be keeping it to himself, and have too much pride to blame his struggles on the injury. Also, I could have won a lot of money tonight betting someone that Delmon Young would go hitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hey, a guy cut down on his swing, put a low and away pitch the other way. And it wasnt a ground out to the SS and 3rd baseman. Maybe someone should video this, and tell our team that it does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 DJ seems to mention 'swinging for the fences' for almost every batter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 HE'S NOT HURT. If he were hurt they wouldn't let him pitch. They've invested too much in him to allow this to get worse by throwing him out there every five days. Enough already. It's between his ears, he loses confidence. We should've traded for El Duque to keep him company and straighten him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Not defending Jose too much but wasn't one of the six runs that inning earned? The rest caused by the bad defense? I don't think you should put 6 runs on the defense. There were a couple bad defensive plays early in the inning and Count responded by giving up hit after hit after hit. It's not like he pitched well (or even ok) and the defense just let him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 01:50 AM) HE'S NOT HURT. If he were hurt they wouldn't let him pitch. They've invested too much in him to allow this to get worse by throwing him out there every five days. Enough already. It's between his ears, he loses confidence. We should've traded for El Duque to keep him company and straighten him out. Then why does every article state that Ozzie keeps asking him if he's injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Thank God Dye pulled the low and away breaking pitch to the SS. Because that approach is how good teams kill rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Is Contreras still better than Santana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 08:51 PM) Is Contreras still better than Santana? I've never heard Jose play the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 thats right keep aiming for I 385. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I love how Hawk attributes the way we play against KC to their intensity and not the fact that we just suck sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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