fathom Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) When was the last time Hawk said Ozzie won't let happen what is actually happening? Never....this team is close to being done with. Our players look fatigued, and we're not doing anything to generate any excitement. Anderson's inability to catch that ball might cost us this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:34 PM) Kelly had a lot to do with the Twins success after he left. They didn't like the fact that he made them take infield and run drills after games they lost and lost because of stupid plays. He taught them how to play the game the right way. Tom Kelly also found a cure for the common cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:34 PM) No offense to anyone, but can we actually discuss the game and stop with the Ozzie pro/con right now. If we don't improve, there's 28 more games until we can talk about this 24/7. Taking the attention away from what is going on in KC is good, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I really thought Buehrle was back after his last start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 12:36 AM) Tom Kelly also found a cure for the common cold. I can't imagine how anyone can think Ozzie is doing a good job this season. That's my thoughts on him, end of story. QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 12:36 AM) I really thought Buehrle was back after his last start. He's in the Garcia mode where I have no clue how he gets guys out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) I really thought Buehrle was back after his last start. Too bad he skipped the WBC and can't use that for an excuse. Somebody please check the lights on the KC scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 05:36 PM) I really thought Buehrle was back after his last start. 3 runs over 6 innings isn't a bad start - and should be PLENTY against Odalis Perez and the Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 We have 9 outs to try and comeback in this game. The good news is that Garcia's on the mound...so the Royals have a great chance at the sweep if they win tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) I can't imagine how anyone can think Ozzie is doing a good job this season. That's my thoughts on him, end of story. He's in the Garcia mode where I have no clue how he gets guys out. Look at the starters' ERA. (Even) Tom Kelly couldn't win with this rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Tom Kelly also found a cure for the common cold. Classic avoiding-the-topic response because of one's inability to disprove another's claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Look at the starters' ERA. (Even) Tom Kelly couldn't win with this rotation. But since it was all because of Ozzie the Sox pitched well in the postseason, shouldn't it be all his fault if they suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(SoxnGiants @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:38 PM) 3 runs over 6 innings isn't a bad start - and should be PLENTY against Odalis Perez and the Royals. The thing is, sometimes you need your starters to do more than that, and this Sox rotation (minus most of Garland's starts) hasn't put the team on their shoulders in a LONG time. The offense has had to outslug what the rotation allows for two months now, and it's just not going to happen consistently for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Woo Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(SoxnGiants @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:38 PM) 3 runs over 6 innings isn't a bad start - and should be PLENTY against Odalis Perez and the Royals. Considering the Sox have only won 5 games this year when scoring 3 runs or less, 3 is usually not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Bench him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Good start to the inning by Brian. Leadoff double. GO Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Bunt! come on old man bring him home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 LUCKY that Odalis balked on throwing to third base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 05:40 PM) The thing is, sometimes you need your starters to do more than that, and this Sox rotation (minus most of Garland's starts) hasn't put the team on their shoulders in a LONG time. The offense has had to outslug what the rotation allows for two months now, and it's just not going to happen consistently for that long. He did "more than that" in his last start. The offense needs to hold there weight and score sime runs against one of the worst pitching staffs in MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Not the greatest bunt, but that's 2 sacs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 nice catch brown, nice work sandy, nice work brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Nice catch by Brown. Does that run count as Ozzie Ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I'm still amazed this team somehow has a 1/2 game wildcard lead. Get it done Sandy. We just gotta keep hanging on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Look at the starters' ERA. (Even) Tom Kelly couldn't win with this rotation. You're not counting the games lost because of Ozzie's decision to start Mack in center over BA, his poor bullpen usage (like bringing in Cotts and Riske before any one of his 4 better bullpen pitchers, his use of Politte), using the starters too long, Podsednik, and you're assuming TK wouldn't have used McCarthy in the rotation. So despite the starters' ERAs, Ozzie has lost a number of games that could have been won had he managed better. I'm banking that the better manager, Tom Kelly, would not have made the same simple mistakes OG did, and thus the Sox would have more wins. Edited September 3, 2006 by shoota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 They are throwing some leather out there tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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