GreatScott82 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 the pathetic thing is. we score only 2 runs off tavarez? a middle aged middle reliever?!? yep im just about to fall off the ledge. somewhere justin morneau is probably celebrating this loss more than the twins win today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 One word ... Sadness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:21 PM) McCarthy deserves some criticism...he's been real bad this year in close games. It's just such a waste of a season for him, and he's not a reliever with his stuff. plain and simple....mccarthy needs to use his offspeed stuff, something he hasnt done his last few games and hitters have been sitting on his fastball in and pounding it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Jenks and the offense lost this game for us tonight. We are f***ing pathetic. Not even playing real teams and still getting our asses kicked. Clev, @Oak, @LAA stretch will have, at most, 3 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I think my goal now is to see Ryan Sweeney get his first major league at-bat. Have to give credit to the team for actually hanging around this long in a tough AL...with pitching as bad as ours its amazing we're not around .500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:23 AM) plain and simple....mccarthy needs to use his offspeed stuff, something he hasnt done his last few games and hitters have been sitting on his fastball in and pounding it... For the 100th time this season (not intended towards you daa), McCarthy doesn't have confidence in his offspeed stuff coming out of the bullpen. He's a "feel" pitcher, and all year he's said he doesn't like the way he stuff feels out of the pen. It's no surprise that his best outings have been when he goes 3 or 4 innings and can develop a rhythm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 08:21 PM) You have a one run lead, a man on first, and a tough lefty facing a struggling hitter with plenty of options on the bench. Instead, Ozzie leaves AJP to hit into a DP. When you have Manny leading off the inning, that lack of proactivity is pathetic. In a game between two terrible managers, it ended up being that the team with the final AB won. LOL. Somebody actually finds a way to blame Ozzie for that. You are incredible. At least s*** on him when he does something wrong. Just as embarassing as how the team is playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ive stopped believin Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 To put it in tennis terms (in honor of the U.S. Open) Game. Set. Match. Season. It's over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:24 AM) LOL. Somebody actually finds a way to blame Ozzie for that. You are incredible. At least s*** on him when he does something wrong. Just as embarassing as how the team is playing. HE'S BAAAACK!! Yep, I think Ozzie could have helped us out a lot more if he would have tried to get more runs in the 9th inning. And if you're going to criticize me for my posts in observing the game, why don't you please add your own. I would have never thought you'd be the type to stop posting just cause the team is doing bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:21 PM) You have a one run lead, a man on first, and a tough lefty facing a struggling hitter with plenty of options on the bench. Instead, Ozzie leaves AJP to hit into a DP. When you have Manny leading off the inning, that lack of proactivity is pathetic. In a game between two terrible managers, it ended up being that the team with the final AB won. You are king of the 20/20 hindsight brigade. Pierzynski's hitting .278 v. lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Where you been????? Just couldn't take the game threads anymore. I occasionally come around. Try to keep quiet at this point, but when there is such an idiotic post just sitting there, I couldn't stay quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:22 AM) One less game until this annoying stretch of baseball is over. Six days till the Bears start Thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 At least Brandon, if his career never takes off, can pin the blame on Ozzie if he wishes to do so. Poor ol Brandon is being misused as a reliever. Give me a break. Lots of pitchers have stepped up in their careers and done what is needed to do. Hope the kid has a long productive career as a starter, but the man has sucked of late and there is no assurance he'd have been a stud as a starter this year though I agree he's been misused by Oz and KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 10:24 PM) For the 100th time this season (not intended towards you daa), McCarthy doesn't have confidence in his offspeed stuff coming out of the bullpen. He's a "feel" pitcher, and all year he's said he doesn't like the way he stuff feels out of the pen. It's no surprise that his best outings have been when he goes 3 or 4 innings and can develop a rhythm. Totally agree. There are some guys cutout to be starters and some as relievers...McCarthy has been badly mis-managed this year. If our leaders thought he was not ready coming into this year, then he should have pitched for Charlotte. If they thought he was ready to face big league hitting (and based off the last two months of last year it seemed to be) then we could have held onto the talent we pissed away for the horrible Vazquez. We would have had Vizcanio, could have dealt El Duque for a prospect or middle relief help or a backup catcher (instead of good young arms we dealt) and would have also held onto one of the games best young CF prospects... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:26 AM) You are king of the 20/20 hindsight brigade. Pierzynski's hitting .278 v. lefties. Lopez is tough as hell on lefties. I thought we called up Stewart so we could have more flexibility late in the game? BTW, this isn't 20/20 hindsight. I was stating this BEFORE the AJP at-bat. QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:27 AM) I would like to hear your views on Pods and Anderson. Pods still >>>>>> to Anderson? and Sizemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:27 PM) At least Brandon, if his career never takes off, can pin the blame on Ozzie if he wishes to do so. Poor ol Brandon is being misused as a reliever. Give me a break. Lots of pitchers have stepped up in their careers and done what is needed to do. Hope the kid has a long productive career as a starter, but the man has sucked of late and there is no assurance he'd have been a stud as a starter this year though I agree he's been misused by Oz and KW. What about the O. No condemnation for a supposed good O being dominated by a horrible, middle reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) You are king of the 20/20 hindsight brigade. Pierzynski's hitting .278 v. lefties. I agree. You don't pinch hit for AJ there. He's your starting catcher, and the last thing we need is old man Alomar behind the plate for the 9th. No, this game is on our pathetic approach and our closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Nordhagen Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) This season is done in my view... Liriano is due to pitch a minor league rehab start later this week...when he joins the Twins they will take control of the WC race. We have to be honest, the team isn't good enough this year. We are still 05 Champions. I don't know about the Liriano thing -- sometimes guys come back, feel healthy and just aren't the same anyway (Contreras for one). But I do agree that this team is in deep trouble. My concern is that there's a cloud over this team. And it's the same cloud that came over this group last September. That crew came out of it because (1) we got good pitching in a series at home against Minnesota (including McCarthy); and (2) Grady Sizemore lost a ball in the sun in Kansas City. I'm looking for some such event now, because we need it. As for today, add Carlos Pena to the Melky Cabrera Society. Travis Hafner is a charter member. In other words, McCarthy's made a real habit of low fastballs to lefties being deposited in the right field stands. I stll say that he's been misused all year long, and the stubborness in that regard is maddening. But I'm just tired of talking about it, as many others here are. And the fact that Vazquez pitches tomorrow will be salt in the wounds, at least for me. This year has been mismanaged -- with reputation, salary and preserving trade value being the important factors, apparently -- from the start. It's ridiculous. We're lucky to be where we are. And where we are is headed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 This just has not been a good day for me first the Sox get beat now my Seminoles look hopeless, I think it os time to take a walk to the Bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:29 AM) I like Brandon, and Oz has been brutal this year, but Brandon is not getting the "I've been misused" pass from me. Step it up, get out of the inning. He needs to get his s*** together, we are going to need him down the stretch. I'm on the same page with you in regards to this. He can't keep throwing these meatballs in clutch situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 08:27 PM) I would like to hear your views on Pods and Anderson. Pods still >>>>>> to Anderson? Pods is playing like crap and Anderson has been much better in the second half. Really like BAs walks even when he isn't swinging that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:24 PM) LOL. Somebody actually finds a way to blame Ozzie for that. You are incredible. At least s*** on him when he does something wrong. Just as embarassing as how the team is playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 jphat....FWIW, I'm not blaming this loss on Ozzie. I just thought that move could have led to an insurance run. This loss falls on our terrible offense, a nice defensive play that Uribe couldn't make but Youkilis could, and Jenks having nothing on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:28 PM) Lopez is tough as hell on lefties. I thought we called up Stewart so we could have more flexibility late in the game? BTW, this isn't 20/20 hindsight. I was stating this BEFORE the AJP at-bat. Lopez hasn't been tough on lefties this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) Six days till the Bears start Thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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