Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Damn fathom. You just had to create this thread. I'm even more pissed off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 He's the exact same manager who managed this team to a championship and we all luved last year, minus the excellent pitching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 09:17 PM) I'd like to see him "pick" on Pods or Garcia the same way. Ozzie is full of s***. He clearly plays favorites. An idiot can see how much Brian has evolved during the year. An idiot can also see what a gifted CF he already is. If Brian is not our starting CF next year -- I'm done with White Sox baseball until Ozzie is fired. He's "picking" on Brian?? Just so I'm clear, Ozzie should be saying what about Anderson's struggles? "Brian's our centerfielder. Today and next year and the year after that. End of discussion." And Anderson deserves to start in CF every game regardless of his performance at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:25 PM) He's "picking" on Brian?? Just so I'm clear, Ozzie should be saying what about Anderson's struggles? "Brian's our centerfielder. Today and next year and the year after that. End of discussion." And Anderson deserves to start in CF every game regardless of his performance at the plate. Wouldn't hurt. He's said stuff like that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 When is somebody going to do something with his uncontrollable mouth. If he feels this way fine discuss it in private with Brian not air it out to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:18 PM) That deadweight is like our 4th best hitter since the break. Tonight's RF, who Ozzie will hate since he doesn't steal 50 or hit 50 over the fence, had half our hits. He's a deadweight too I'm sure, he's not a 30 year old slap hitter who steals a thousand bases, and he doesn't hit a thousand home runs. Bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:25 PM) He's "picking" on Brian?? Just so I'm clear, Ozzie should be saying what about Anderson's struggles? "Brian's our centerfielder. Today and next year and the year after that. End of discussion." And Anderson deserves to start in CF every game regardless of his performance at the plate. Do you really think Brian is gonna hit .227 or whatever he's at next year? This year was a great teacher for him. He's supremely talented. He's already, IMO, the best defensive CF in baseball. That alone should guarantee him a starting job next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:13 PM) sounds spot on to me. Why the f*** should Anderson be guaranteed anything? He's dead weight in the order and Ozzie's putting him on notice and doing it with confidence in his ability. Poor Brian. Ozzie's picking on him. Boo f***ing hoo. How the f*** is Brian Anderson dead weight? And so help me if you say his batting average is .230 I will strike you down good sir. This guy has a near .800 OPS over the past 3 months, which is pretty f***ing awesome if you ask me. Instead of focusing his anger on the one good young position player the white sox have perhaps Ozzie could let Podsednik, Garcia, Uribe or any of the other underachieving, s***ty assclowns on this team know that they need to pick the s*** up. It's so f***ing ironic that if Ozzie Guillen the manger managed Ozzie Guillen the player, he would have been out of the f***ing league 3 years into this career. Ozzie Guillen = Dusty Baker when it comes to young talent, I said it last year, I said it at the beginning of this year and I'm saying it again now. What a f***ing joke this guy has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:25 PM) He's the exact same manager who managed this team to a championship and we all luved last year, minus the excellent pitching... ^^^^^^^^ QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:28 PM) How the f*** is Brian Anderson dead weight? And so help me if you say his batting average is .230 I will strike you down good sir. This guy has a near .800 OPS over the past 3 months, which is pretty f***ing awesome if you ask me. Instead of focusing his anger on the one good young position player the white sox have perhaps Ozzie could let Podsednik, Garcia, Uribe or any of the other underachieving, s***ty assclowns on this team know that they need to pick the s*** up. It's so f***ing ironic that if Ozzie Guillen the manger managed Ozzie Guillen the player, he would have been out of the f***ing league 3 years into this career. Ozzie Guillen = Dusty Baker when it comes to young talent, I said it last year, I said it at the beginning of this year and I'm saying it again now. What a f***ing joke this guy has become. ^^^^^^^ again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Has there ever been a more confusing, infuriating and just miserable season than this one? Seriously, there's so many god damn questions that will never be answered and just so much s*** that has cost this team games that could have been avoided. UGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Somebody should remind Ozzie that his boy Freddy's era might be close to 6 if not for Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:31 PM) Has there ever been a more confusing, infuriating and just miserable season than this one? Seriously, there's so many god damn questions that will never be answered and just so much s*** that has cost this team games that could have been avoided. UGH! Seriously, it was more fun in the late 90's and early 2000's when we just plain sucked and nobody showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 First he burys McCarthy and constantly puts him in a posistion to fail, and yes McCarthy should man up, but putting him in close in late when hes an extreme fly ball and "feel" pitcher isn't smart, and also denying what the kid did for you down the strectch is just dumb. Now he tells Brian hes either got to get faster or hit for more power, yet when brian has a great game against Detroit with a triple and a single whats Ozzie do? he f***ing benches him and now hes going to s*** on him some more, f*** YOU OZZIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 09:28 PM) How the f*** is Brian Anderson dead weight? And so help me if you say his batting average is .230 I will strike you down good sir. And I shall smite thee! seriously Kalapse, he's hitting .230 And I would remind you that in June when there was talk of sending Anderson down who made the decision to stick with him? Who gave him the vote of confidence? Oswaldo Guillen. And if you guys would set aside your man love for Brian and read between the lines just a bit you'd see that this all got started with Anderson's "luke warm" reception to the idea of playing winter ball. That prompted Guillen to remind he's young five (so I'm told) tooled player that playing time in the bigs is earned. You guys act as if Ozzie was just talking off the top of his head and decided to call out Anderson for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:17 PM) I'd like to see him "pick" on Pods or Garcia the same way. Why would you want to hear Ozzie issue challenges to either for next year if it's most likely that neither will be on the team next year??? QUOTE(BHAMBARONS @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:27 PM) When is somebody going to do something with his uncontrollable mouth. If he feels this way fine discuss it in private with Brian not air it out to the media. Am I missing the part where Ozzie dissed Brian's mom? And for the record, I like Anderson and am very glad to see him finally picking it up with the bat. His glove has been outstanding. I want to see him start almost every game now too. But you're being ridiculous if you can't admit that he was atrocious at the plate for the first half, looked lost, and did need to sit down at times for the benefit of the team and himself. Unfortunately, the only guy available was Mackowiak. Now Ozzie seems set in his ways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:39 PM) And I shall smite thee! seriously Kalapse, he's hitting .230 And I would remind you that in June when there was talk of sending Anderson down who made the decision to stick with him? Who gave him the vote of confidence? Oswaldo Guillen. And if you guys would set aside your man love for Brian and read between the lines just a bit you'd see that this all got started with Anderson's "luke warm" reception to the idea of playing winter ball. That prompted Guillen to remind he's young five (so I'm told) tooled player that playing time in the bigs is earned. You guys act as if Ozzie was just talking off the top of his head and decided to call out Anderson for no reason. You don't send a guy that just went through his first 162 game season to winter ball to learn how to run and hit for power, first of all. And second, Brian would still be in AAA if not for Kenny. That has NOTHING to do with Ozzie, Kenny pretty much made him keep Brian up here, and even then he hasn't got nearly enough at bats. And you might want to check Brian's splits since June 8th before just saying OMG HE'S HITTING .230, LOL HE SUCKS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I guess thats just ozzie being ozzie, tearing down young talent for no reason and not calling out those that need to be called out. oh ozzie your the greatest. you even have an award to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 04:32 AM) Seriously, it was more fun in the late 90's and early 2000's when we just plain sucked and nobody showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 09:41 PM) Why would you want to hear Ozzie issue challenges to either for next year if it's most likely that neither will be on the team next year??? Am I missing the part where Ozzie dissed Brian's mom? And for the record, I like Anderson and am very glad to see him finally picking it up with the bat. His glove has been outstanding. I want to see him start almost every game now too. But you're being ridiculous if you can't admit that he was atrocious at the plate for the first half, looked lost, and did need to sit down at times for the benefit of the team and himself. Unfortunately, the only guy available was Mackowiak. Now Ozzie seems set in his ways... I never said that he was playing good in fact he really struggled, but there is a way of handling this go to the player and tell him personally. You have to admit that Ozzie didn't need to air this out to media this could have been handled privately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:39 PM) And I shall smite thee! seriously Kalapse, he's hitting .230 And I would remind you that in June when there was talk of sending Anderson down who made the decision to stick with him? Who gave him the vote of confidence? Oswaldo Guillen. And if you guys would set aside your man love for Brian and read between the lines just a bit you'd see that this all got started with Anderson's "luke warm" reception to the idea of playing winter ball. That prompted Guillen to remind he's young five (so I'm told) tooled player that playing time in the bigs is earned. You guys act as if Ozzie was just talking off the top of his head and decided to call out Anderson for no reason. Who would have been the starting CF had Anderson been sent down? Rob Mackowiak, even Ozzie knows Mackowiak would have killed this team if he would have played every damn day for a month, he was totally bluffing about sending Anderson down. And the funniest thing about that is, who was it that was even talking about sending him down? It was Ozzie. So Ozzie first threatens to have him send down then says that Anderson will be staying but needs to play better and now that Anderson is playing well Ozzie gets credit for sticking up for Brian when no one else did. What a crock. This isn't even about Ozzie not gauranteeing him a starting job, that's all fine and well, I don't think anyone really should be gauranteed a job. It's more about this constant criticism of Anderson from Ozzie, it makes no sense and comes out at the oddest times, Oz has much bigger fish to fry and yet he continues to talk about Anderson like he's playing like Scott Podsednik. He says Anderson needs to get better offensively when in actuality Anderson has been one of the best hitters on this team since the break, perhaps Ozzie could better spend his time trying to light a fire under the asses of the players who are playing at a much lower level than Anderson who are getting twice the playing time he is. And since when does a player have to be either a speed or power guy? Why the hell can't he do both? I really don't understand that s***, he want's Anderson to play in Venezuela over the winter and decide if he's going to be a top of the lineup type player or a power hitter? Why can't he just hit with power while mixing in some of his speed as well? Tell me what do these players have in common? Bobby Abreu, Carlos Beltra, Vlad Guerrero, Alfonso Soriano, Barry Bonds, Steve Finley, Reggie Sanders, Sammy Sosa, Ray Lankford, Raul Mondesi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Craig Biggio, Johnny Damon, Mike Cameron, Magglio Ordonez, Ken Griffey Jr., Grady Sizemore, Carl Crawford, Jose Reyes, Shawn Green, Jose Canseco, Ricky Henderson, Bo Jackson, Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Ray Durham, Derek Lee, Brian Jordan, Eric Davis, Darryl Strawberry, Ron Gant, Devon White, Roberto Alomar, Andruw Jones, Darin Erstad, Torii Hunter, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Al Martin, Ellis Burks, Dante Bichette, Carl Everett, Cliff Floyd, Chipper Jones, Derek Bell, Andre Dawson, Robin Yount, Joe Carter, Dave Parker, Howard Johnson, Ryne Sandberg, Andy Van Slyke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Brian should call out Ozzie's ass Hillenbrand style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) Why would you want to hear Ozzie issue challenges to either for next year if it's most likely that neither will be on the team next year??? Am I missing the part where Ozzie dissed Brian's mom? And for the record, I like Anderson and am very glad to see him finally picking it up with the bat. His glove has been outstanding. I want to see him start almost every game now too. But you're being ridiculous if you can't admit that he was atrocious at the plate for the first half, looked lost, and did need to sit down at times for the benefit of the team and himself. Unfortunately, the only guy available was Mackowiak. Now Ozzie seems set in his ways... First half? No. First 2 months and 11 days of the season? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Ozzie's right. They need more from him offensively and why is Anderson lukewarm on the idea of playing winter ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 After thinking about it for a bit, I don't think there is a person in major league baseball that I hate more than Ozzie Guillen right now. How can you hate the one guy who brought us a world championship. I love the guy. He is the best manager in baseball bar none and the best in Chicago history. He brought us a title. I'm glad he's not sold on Anderson. I can't believe how much people on the Internet love a .240 hitter. Wow he's hit .300 since the break. Great. He's a .240 hitter. What did Oz say that was so bad. The guy has to prove he's an everyday player. And Juan Pierre sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 12:02 AM) How can you hate the one guy who brought us a world championship. I love the guy. He is the best manager in baseball bar none and the best in Chicago history. He brought us a title. I'm glad he's not sold on Anderson. I can't believe how much people on the Internet love a .240 hitter. Wow he's hit .300 since the break. Great. He's a .240 hitter. What did Oz say that was so bad. The guy has to prove he's an everyday player. And Juan Pierre sucks! I have no problem with you not being sold on BA, and damn Pierre does indeed suck. However, how can you keep defending Ozzie?? That pitching staff, you know as well as I, could have carried even the worst manager (Dusty for example) to a title, they were that good. To an extent he deserves respect since in his 2nd year as a manager, we won it all, however to say "he" brought us a title and is the best manager in baseball bar none and in Chicago history is ambitious to say the least. Edited September 6, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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