Ozzie's thoughts on Brian Anderson

[Kalapse]

How can you hate the one guy who brought us a world championship.

I love the guy.

He is the best manager in baseball bar none and the best in Chicago history.

He brought us a title.

 

I'm glad he's not sold on Anderson. I can't believe how much people on the Internet

love a .240 hitter.

Wow he's hit .300 since the break. Great.

He's a .240 hitter.

What did Oz say that was so bad. The guy has to prove he's an everyday player.

And Juan Pierre sucks!

DEAR GOD WHO GIVES A s*** WHAT HIS BATTING AVERAGE CURRENTLY IS! Honestly if you can't look past a guys batting average for the season and break it down in a more useful way, then you must be just completely baseball retarded. For 3 months now he's been a very good hitter, for 2 months he was horrid. Sounds an awful lot like Garland.

 

He may not proven he's an everyday player but damn to keep bringing up his batting average for the season like it means something is just stupid.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Greg, the only person who swings and misses more often than Anderson is you.

[greg775]

I mean I want BA to succeed and hope he is our everday center fielder, but I can see where

Oz is coming from. As manager he had to be pissed at his piss poor first couple months.

An automatic out in that span and without great speed, at least he hasn't run yet.

 

As far as defending Oz I think he is the best manager in Chicago baseball history because he is

the first to lead us to a title since the dark ages. Al Lopez didn't win it all.

Neither did Durocher.

Neither did Tanner.

Oz did.

 

I realize his putting Mack in cf has hurt us in a lot of games.

But is that all on Oz? What options does he have, considering as manager he does not want

Anderson out there every day.

 

I just think his players are letting him down.

If they have quit on him, I guess he deserves to be fired.

I don't see why they'd quit on him considering he's regarded as a "player's manager."

 

You know his not playing BA everyday and the decision to use McCarthy in pen was not all on Oz.

It's KW who acquired Vas, necessitating the move to the pen.

[Jordan4life_2007]

He is the best manager in baseball bar none and the best in Chicago history.

He brought us a title.

 

I need about 5 jumbo sized barf bags right about now.

[beautox]

Greg, the only person who swings and misses more often than Anderson is you.

hahahaha, awesome.

[whitesoxfan101]

I mean I want BA to succeed and hope he is our everday center fielder, but I can see where

Oz is coming from. As manager he had to be pissed at his piss poor first couple months.

An automatic out in that span and without great speed, at least he hasn't run yet.

 

As far as defending Oz I think he is the best manager in Chicago baseball history because he is

the first to lead us to a title since the dark ages. Al Lopez didn't win it all.

Neither did Durocher.

Neither did Tanner.

Oz did.

 

I realize his putting Mack in cf has hurt us in a lot of games.

But is that all on Oz? What options does he have, considering as manager he does not want

Anderson out there every day.

 

I just think his players are letting him down.

If they have quit on him, I guess he deserves to be fired.

I don't see why they'd quit on him considering he's regarded as a "player's manager."

 

You know his not playing BA everyday and the decision to use McCarthy in pen was not all on Oz.

It's KW who acquired Vas, necessitating the move to the pen.

 

What would you think of Ozzie had we not won it all last year? Because if A.J. isn't given 1st base for no reason in game 2, we very well might have fallen short of the AL Pennant and World Title. What would you think of Ozzie had we not gotten lucky that night, and thus not won it all?

[greg775]

Name a better manager than Oz in Chicago baseball history.

I'll take the guy with the ring.

[fathom]

I guess thats just ozzie being ozzie, tearing down young talent for no reason and not calling out those that need to be called out. oh ozzie your the greatest.

 

you even have an award to say so.

 

Yep, he has no problems bashing Anderson and McCarthy. Meanwhile, veterans like Garcia and Podsednik get every excuse in the book from Ozzie for their struggles.

[whitesoxfan101]

Name a better manager than Oz in Chicago baseball history.

I'll take the guy with the ring.

 

Tallest midget, and Al Lopez was still a lot better. And please answer my question.

Edited September 6, 2006 by whitesoxfan101

[greg775]

Because if A.J. isn't given 1st base for no reason in game 2, we very well might have fallen short of the AL Pennant and World Title. What would you think of Ozzie had we not gotten lucky that night, and thus not won it all?

 

Please don't call the team lucky because of the AJ play. You know as well as I do baseball is a game of inches and breaks.

C'mon. You aren't calling our Sox lucky champs.

 

If we didn't win it all, I guess I wouldn't be as high on Oz, though I'd like to think just making the Series would have made

me think he was a pretty damn good manager.

 

 

 

We could all write essays on why we think Oz is great or sucks.

If you want me to answer any specific reasons I think he's good, fire away.

 

I want to know if the majority of Sox fans think Oz sucks or just the majority on here.

[fathom]

Please don't call the team lucky because of the AJ play. You know as well as I do baseball is a game of inches and breaks.

C'mon. You aren't calling our Sox lucky champs.

 

If we didn't win it all, I guess I wouldn't be as high on Oz, though I'd like to think just making the Series would have made

me think he was a pretty damn good manager.

 

Here's my thought:

 

Dear Ozzie....thanks for the 2005 WS ring. Now please follow-up on your promise, and quit this offseason. This way, KW won't have to give up anymore of our few remaining big prospects in order to acquire your golf buddies (unless it's Miguel Cabrera). Also, our young players will get more experience, which might allow us to have a 100 million dollar payroll more spread out across the roster instead of half in our pitching staff and 1/5 at the 1b/DH position.

[whitesoxfan101]

Please don't call the team lucky because of the AJ play. You know as well as I do baseball is a game of inches and breaks.

C'mon. You aren't calling our Sox lucky champs.

 

If we didn't win it all, I guess I wouldn't be as high on Oz, though I'd like to think just making the Series would have made

me think he was a pretty damn good manager.

 

We wouldn't have made the series if we lost that game though, that's the point. And we weren't lucky champs, but I'm just saying if that one play in "a game of inches" goes different, we might not even make the World Series. And if your letting your opinion of Ozzie be based on 1 play like that, I don't get it. It should be about his long term resume and how he manages a team, which isn't looking too good right now.

[southsideirish71]

How can you hate the one guy who brought us a world championship.

I love the guy.

He is the best manager in baseball bar none and the best in Chicago history.

He brought us a title.

 

I'm glad he's not sold on Anderson. I can't believe how much people on the Internet

love a .240 hitter.

Wow he's hit .300 since the break. Great.

He's a .240 hitter.

What did Oz say that was so bad. The guy has to prove he's an everyday player.

And Juan Pierre sucks!

 

 

And yesterday you wanted Aaron Guiel to platoon with Brian. He isnt even a .218 hitter nor is he a centerfielder. He is a 33 year old career .240ish hitter.

[fathom]

Please don't call the team lucky because of the AJ play. You know as well as I do baseball is a game of inches and breaks.

C'mon. You aren't calling our Sox lucky champs.

 

If we didn't win it all, I guess I wouldn't be as high on Oz, though I'd like to think just making the Series would have made

me think he was a pretty damn good manager.

We could all write essays on why we think Oz is great or sucks.

If you want me to answer any specific reasons I think he's good, fire away.

 

I want to know if the majority of Sox fans think Oz sucks or just the majority on here.

 

Ozzie's the first person to say 2005 is over. He's even said that if we don't make the playoffs, he deserves the blame. From what we've all seen lately, this team is going nowhere. I know you don't see many of the games, so I think you don't get as good of an illustration about just how fundamentally bad this team is and how awful the intensity is.

[southsideirish71]

Ozzie's right. They need more from him offensively and why is Anderson lukewarm on the idea of playing winter ball?

 

 

If Ozzie was worried about offense we would of ditched prancer in left about 2 months ago.

[beautox]

If Ozzie was worried about offense we would of ditched prancer in left about 2 months ago.

Shame on you SSI, you ditch prancer and you'll have the team in "panic" mode.

[fathom]

If Ozzie was worried about offense we would of ditched prancer in left about 2 months ago.

 

I love how Ozzie says "Pods is just trying too hard". Has anyone ever seen Ozzie and the PFB in the same place at the same time?

[greg775]

And yesterday you wanted Aaron Guiel to platoon with Brian. He isnt even a .218 hitter nor is he a centerfielder. He is a 33 year old career .240ish hitter.

 

C'mon don't pile on. I said I thought Guiel might have been a good pickup in retrospect and somebody pointed out Clark

would have been a better option and I agreed with that.

I have watched Guiel play a lot for the Royals and like his style of play and thought in retrospect he might be a good option

if Oz isn't gonna play BA everday, which he won't do.

The Clark option made sense and I said that yesterday.

Edited September 6, 2006 by greg775

[whitesoxfan101]

Oh Lord, did Ozzie actually say Twinkle toes is just "trying too hard"?? What is Freddy doing then Ozzie?? Oh wait, can't be dissing family right, they don't do that in Venezuela do they?? VIVA HUGO CHAVEZ!!

[fathom]

Shame on you SSI, you ditch prancer and you'll have the team in "panic" mode.

 

I love how the game article on chicagosports says that Ozzie sounded the alarm after tonight's game that we have to start winning NOW before it's too late. This might have been useful about a month ago.

 

Oh Lord, did Ozzie actually say Twinkle toes is just "trying too hard"?? What is Freddy doing then Ozzie?? Oh wait, can't be dissing family right, they don't do that in Venezuela do they?? VIVA HUGO CHAVEZ!!

 

Be careful, if you mess with Garcia, someone might have to "take you out".

[whitesoxfan101]

Be careful, if you mess with Garcia, someone might have to "take you out".

 

Yep, somebody might kidnap me, piss on me, and kill me. Then Ozzie will ask KW to sign him for the bullpen.

[fathom]

Yep, somebody might kidnap me, piss on me, and kill me. Then Ozzie will ask KW to sign him for the bullpen.

 

And people on this site will say that the attempted murder wasn't a big deal and not a good representation of Urbina's character.

[witesoxfan]

Why would you want to hear Ozzie issue challenges to either for next year if it's most likely that neither will be on the team next year???

 

I dunno, to try and F***ING WIN THIS YEAR? Pretty much cut and dry to me.

 

Tell me what do these players have in common?

 

Bobby Abreu, Carlos Beltra, Vlad Guerrero, Alfonso Soriano, Barry Bonds, Steve Finley, Reggie Sanders, Sammy Sosa, Ray Lankford, Raul Mondesi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Craig Biggio, Johnny Damon, Mike Cameron, Magglio Ordonez, Ken Griffey Jr., Grady Sizemore, Carl Crawford, Jose Reyes, Shawn Green, Jose Canseco, Ricky Henderson, Bo Jackson, Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Ray Durham, Derek Lee, Brian Jordan, Eric Davis, Darryl Strawberry, Ron Gant, Devon White, Roberto Alomar, Andruw Jones, Darin Erstad, Torii Hunter, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Al Martin, Ellis Burks, Dante Bichette, Carl Everett, Cliff Floyd, Chipper Jones, Derek Bell, Andre Dawson, Robin Yount, Joe Carter, Dave Parker, Howard Johnson, Ryne Sandberg, Andy Van Slyke.

 

They were/are very productive players for winning teams.

 

I would say 20-20 players too, but Crawford hasn't quite gotten there. So I'll say all were/are also .800/20 players are some point in their careers, perhaps better than that even.

[Kalapse]

I dunno, to try and F***ING WIN THIS YEAR? Pretty much cut and dry to me.

They were/are very productive players for winning teams.

 

I would say 20-20 players too, but Crawford hasn't quite gotten there. So I'll say all were/are also .800/20 players are some point in their careers, perhaps better than that even.

Yes you are correct with the 20/20, every player that I listed had multiple 20/20 or close (18/32) seasons and in the case of Crawford and Reyes they may not have reached that level yet but will very soon and should continue that for a good portion of their careers. But remember you have to choose one over the other, you can not be both a speed and power player.

[witesoxfan]

Yes you are correct with the 20/20, every player that I listed had multiple 20/20 or close (18/32) seasons and in the case of Crawford and Reyes they may not have reached that level yet but will very soon and should continue that for a good portion of their careers. But remember you have to choose one over the other, you can not be both a speed and power player.

 

If you are a 5-tool player, you have no place on this White Sox team.

 

Any dreams of the Sox acquiring Crawford just went out the window, because he would be dead in a week with Ozzie.