shoota Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think Jose Contreras is hurt and is still pitching because the Sox are in such a tight playoff contest. His start last night versus Boston was so dominant that during the game I wondered if he received a cortisone injection to mask his pain. In David Wells's book, Perfect I'm Not, he stated that all of his best-pitched games with Toronto in 2000 came after an injection of cortisone. He called it a miracle drug that allowed him to pitch complete games and do so with great stuff. That's the reason Gord Ash traded him to the Sox after the 2000 season, because he knew why Wells's stats looked so good--information I'm sure he didn't share with Kenny Williams. In Contreras's last three starts, he's lasted 5, 2 2/3, and 5 IP with 8 strikeouts total. In Boston he went 8 IP with 9 strikeouts. I think Contreras's was given a cortisone shot because of his injury, recent bad performances, and tight playoff race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Well, since we're just speculating... I think he had a Snicker's bar, a bottle of lemon-lime Gatorade, and a Flinstone's vitamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 He really seems like more of a Twix man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) Well, since we're just speculating... I think he had a Snicker's bar, a bottle of lemon-lime Gatorade, and a Flinstone's vitamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I'd want to know how many shots he could have over a 30 day period, and how long each shot would last, before speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) He really seems like more of a Twix man. I always assumed he liked whachamacallits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 04:34 PM) I'd want to know how many shots he could have over a 30 day period, and how long each shot would last, before speculating. Wells explained this in his book, stating the effectiveness of the cortisone shot diminishes as shots increase. It got to one point for him where he became virtually immune to it, not feeling the relief he got from every other shot. I don't know how long each shot lasts, that's something I'm curious to know too, because I want to know how many Contreras will need to get through October. Edited September 7, 2006 by shoota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Butterfinger gives him a crappy grip on his forkball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Bit-O-Honey.. his fingers nice and sticky for the forkball!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I'm kinda thinking the same thing... Different arm angle the last few months, horrible numbers. I'm sure that a lot of this is mental, but it's just dumb to not consider that he's hurt too. Why would you fix something if it's not broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(shoota @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 09:48 PM) Wells explained this in his book, stating the effectiveness of the cortisone shot diminishes as shots increase. It got to one point for him where he became virtually immune to it, not feeling the relief he got from every other shot. I don't know how long each shot lasts, that's something I'm curious to know too, because I want to know how many Contreras will need to get through October. What are you talking about... this is all speculation on your part and you make it seem like your 100% sure its true... some things on message boards are just flatout ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 05:31 PM) What are you talking about... this is all speculation on your part and you make it seem like your 100% sure its true... some things on message boards are just flatout ridiculous. Ironic isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) well, [insert name of candy bar] gives him [insert bad punchline]. decent speculation based on very little. I don't know why they sometimes disclose that a pitcher got a cortisone shot, and other times they don't, like they apparently did with David Wells. Edited September 7, 2006 by AirScott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think he talked with Dock Ellis before the game But that's just speculation on my part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) Ironic isn't it? lol well you expect it to a degree... but this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeman89 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 maybe they gave one to vazquez for his last start, and maybe they started giving them to garland after his rough start and maybe they stopped working for buehrle you just sound like a moron, dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 09:34 PM) I'd want to know how many shots he could have over a 30 day period, and how long each shot would last, before speculating. At least one every 4 days PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(lukeman89 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) maybe they gave one to vazquez for his last start, and maybe they started giving them to garland after his rough start and maybe they stopped working for buehrle you just sound like a moron, dude you should let that last comment sink in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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