Texsox Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice call SS2k5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 12:33 AM) Quit jumping off of the bandwagon, the kid is going to be back in Chicago next year, and he will be just fine. Yeah I don't see how the Sox would not pick up his option this off-season. I mean those calling for Zito, Zito's going to probably get a bigger contract than what Roy Oswalt got, because he'll have the 2 New York teams after him, and other big market teams like the Cubs as well. If Buehrle turns it around, great you can attempt to re-sign him to a long - term deal, trade him at the deadline, or get the 2 draft picks if he leaves. You wouldn't let him just walk away without getting some type of compensation for him after what he's achieved over the past 5 or so seasons. Buehrle's just been owned by the Indians this season, they're his bogey team. Before last night though, he actually had 4 quality starts in his last 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I doubt the Sox go after Hunter. We still won't have a leadoff hitter then. Unless KW can find a leadoff capable SS. My #1 goal would be to swoop Crawford from Tampa. Then you can leave B. Anderson out in CF. Then package a mega deal to Baltamore for Tejada and Bedard. Tampa would want McCarthy, Sweeney and another top prospect. And I say do it. Then trade Garcia, Broadway, Uribe and cash for Tejada and Bedard. Your 2007 Chicago White Sox: Starting Rotation: Buerhle, Garland, Contreras, Vazquez, Bedard Starting lineup: Crawford LF Iguchi 2B Tejada SS Thome DH Konerko 1B Dye RF Crede 3B Pierzynski C Anderson CF Okay yeah that would be unfair for everyone! But if we miss the playoffs i expect something along these lines for KW. Yeah that would be my ultamate bday present (today is my birthday) hopefully KW can pull something off like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Well if Sweeney is starting it better be in left field with a new shortstop to leadoff. I'll be completely lost and pretty pissed if Brian isn't the starting cf next season. You could have Sweeney and Anderson down the bottom of the order, with a guy like Jimmy Rollins leading off. Rollins has been mentioned on here quite a bit. Since Ozzie wants more speed in the lineup getting another LF like Dellucci seems unrealistic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 02:38 PM) Then trade Garcia, Broadway, Uribe and cash for Tejada and Bedard. And then, let's trade Pablo Ozuna to St Louis for Albert Pujols. After that, let's trade Buehrle for Johan Santana and Matt Garza. Then, we trade Tadahito Iguchi for Chase Utley and Ryan Howard. Howard'll be a solid bat off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I will predict right now we will sign either Julio Lugo or Juan Pierre this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 12:46 AM) I will predict right now we will sign either Julio Lugo or Juan Pierre this offseason. I see Lugo ending up with Mets. They have a hole at 2B and he was a fan of theirs growing up. Pierre would yeah be more realistic (where's Jeckle with his PIERRE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!) posts when ya need him. Lugo's probably going to get around 5/40M as well I would say. Don't know about Pierre contract wise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Tejada isnt coming here, we need to get that out of our brains right now. Plus aquiring a player who is on the decline defensively shouldnt be our main goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Zito is a flyball pitcher, at the cell it would be disaster. KW should be trying to accquire either sinkerball types, or strike out stuff guys if the cell is going to stay the way it is. We should at least try and start to take those types of arms in the draft for the next few years. We have our 2 safe guys now, Broadway and McCulloch. We can now start to go after stuff guys, guys who project better than 4th or 5th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 09:45 AM) And then, let's trade Pablo Ozuna to St Louis for Albert Pujols. After that, let's trade Buehrle for Johan Santana and Matt Garza. Then, we trade Tadahito Iguchi for Chase Utley and Ryan Howard. Howard'll be a solid bat off the bench. priceless. You know somewhere there is a fan from another team wanting to trade a used jock strap for Crede and their fans think the Sox would go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 02:59 PM) priceless. You know somewhere there is a fan from another team wanting to trade a used jock strap for Crede and their fans think the Sox would go for it. Thankfully, Crede decided to become a power hitter this season. After Ozzie told him that he had to decide if he wanted to be a speed hitter or a power hitter, Crede decided to step it up and hit for power. Ozzie really is a saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) And then, let's trade Pablo Ozuna to St Louis for Albert Pujols. After that, let's trade Buehrle for Johan Santana and Matt Garza. Then, we trade Tadahito Iguchi for Chase Utley and Ryan Howard. Howard'll be a solid bat off the bench. WOw that would be tremendous! I love sarcasm!! Good one buddy. I agree that we probably wont get Tejada, but your saying Crawford is out of the question then? I love Sweeney and Anderson out there and all but having them both out there at the same time could be a disaster. Not defensively, but they can be offensive liabilities. I suppose if you bring Lugo over he can spell some of the leadoff problems. And yes that would be more 'realistic'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 03:06 PM) WOw that would be tremendous! I love sarcasm!! Good one buddy. I agree that we probably wont get Tejada, but your saying Crawford is out of the question then? I love Sweeney and Anderson out there and all but having them both out there at the same time could be a disaster. Not defensively, but they can be offensive liabilities. I suppose if you bring Lugo over he can spell some of the leadoff problems. And yes that would be more 'realistic'. We don't have the pieces to get Crawford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:11 AM) We don't have the pieces to get Crawford. I wish we did. I would settle for Ryan Freel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:18 AM) I wish we did. I would settle for Ryan Freel. Does he come with one of these? If so, I'd love him too Edited September 8, 2006 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:19 AM) Does he come with one of these? If so, I'd love him too No, but he comes with a .366 OBP about 40 sb's and good defense. Oh, and the reds have two younger players that are ready to step in, which would make him expendable. Edited September 8, 2006 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:30 AM) No, but he comes with a .366 OBP about 40 sb's and good defense. Trust me, I like him and he's a solid player. How many times has he been arrested though in the last few years? QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 09:50 AM) I see Lugo ending up with Mets. They have a hole at 2B and he was a fan of theirs growing up. Pierre would yeah be more realistic (where's Jeckle with his PIERRE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!) posts when ya need him. BA >>>>>>>>> Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I wouldn't get rid of Buerhle. I think I would remove him from the rotation for the rest of this year though. His back may be why he's leaving everything up and extremely hittable. Garcia, Vazquez even Contreras I would rid myself of, although it would have to take a lot more to get Contreras. I just don't see the Count being all that effective for the duration of his contract. There are more than a few people pretty close to the situation who swear the Count is older than Duque. I think the Sox make a run at Pierre as mentioned above. Even Levine mentioned he heard Pierre would be a White Sox target this offseason. Ozzie loves him. Personally, I have no problem with Uribe. I wish he would be more consistent and hit for a higher average. Unless you're replacing him with a superstar, I would keep him at SS. I would also see what kind of market there is for Iguchi. He's a good player, there's just something about him that I don't really like. I'd like to get a sparkplug type guy at 2B. Someone who will have a filthy uniform every game. Please KW, don't ignore the bullpen this offseason. He picked up some pieces at the end of spring training and a couple during the season, but it would be nice to have a solid bullpen from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:33 AM) Trust me, I like him and he's a solid player. How many times has he been arrested though in the last few years? I have no idea, in fact I wasnt aware of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 03:35 PM) I have no idea, in fact I wasnt aware of any. I know he's had one DUI, but I'm 100 pct confident in saying that this guy has/had some major substance abuse issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:35 AM) I have no idea, in fact I wasnt aware of any. I'm pretty sure its been at least 2 or 3, but it could be more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:37 AM) I know he's had one DUI, but I'm 100 pct confident in saying that this guy has/had some major substance abuse issues. huh, never knew that. He is still a better player than PODS, maybe even when drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Yea, it's been multiple times: http://www.google.com/search?q=ryan+freel+...:en-US:official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 03:38 PM) huh, never knew that. He is still a better player than PODS, maybe even when drunk. There's absolutely no one that will disagree with you (well, maybe one person might). I can't see the Reds trading Freel now that they've given up Lopez (their other potential leadoff hitter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I hope no one thinks there's a realistic chance the Sox sign Zito. The White Sox don't give pitchers more than 3 years. Someone will give Zito at least 4 and if the Yankees and Mets are involved, it may go to 5 or even 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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