Il Jong dying

[samclemens]

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/0....070138889.html

 

does anyone know if he has a son or someone who is succeeding him? somebody should make a move soon and topple n. korea.

[Balta1701]

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/0....070138889.html

 

does anyone know if he has a son or someone who is succeeding him? somebody should make a move soon and topple n. korea.

From the article you cited:

 

Chung also said Kim Jong-Il's first son, Jong-Nam, has backing from the Chinese leadership to be North Korea's next leader. However, his maverick lifestyle has caused him to lose his father's favor, Chung said.

 

Kim Jong-Nam was arrested on arrival in Japan in 2001 for using a forged Dominican passport.

 

Jong-Nam is also involved in the North's missile sales, Chung said, citing sources.

From Wikipedia

 

It appears that Kim Jong-nam's enemies in the DPRK have used the Tokyo incident to undermine his position as Kim Jong-il's heir apparent. Kim Jong-il has another son, Kim Jong-chul (born 1981 or 1982), whose mother was Ko Young-hee, Kim's most recent partner. This gives Kim Jong Chul a significant advantage in the dynastic politics of the DPRK. Kim Jong-il also has a daughter, Kim Sul-song (born 1974), whose mother is Kim's current wife, Kim Young-suk. Kim Young-suk, however, has been out of favour for many years.

 

In February 2003 the DPRK People's Army began a propaganda campaign under the slogan "The Respected Mother is the Most Faithful and Loyal Subject to the Dear Leader Comrade Supreme Commander." Since the "Respected Mother" was described as "[devoting] herself to the personal safety of the comrade supreme commander," and "[assisting] the comrade supreme commander nearest to his body," it is assumed that the "Respected Mother" is Ko Young-hee, and that the campaign is designed to promote Kim Jong-chul, her son. (A similar campaign was launched in praise of Kim Jong Il's mother during the later years of Kim Il-Sung's life.)

 

This suggests that Kim Jong-chul, despite his youth, may have emerged as a serious rival, with Army backing, to Kim Jong-nam as the long-term successor to power in the DPRK. Since the loyalty of the Army is the real foundation of the Kim family's continuing hold on power in the DPRK, this would be a serious development for Kim Jong-nam's prospects. In late 2003 it was reported that Kim Jong-nam was living in China, lending strength to this belief.

 

Hwang Jang Yup, a former KWP secretary for international affairs who defected to the South in 1997, said in 2003: "An heir must be the child of a woman a king loves, and it is true that Kim Jong-il loves Ko Young-hee most. The fate of Kim Jong-nam has finished."

[NorthSideSox72]

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/0....070138889.html

 

does anyone know if he has a son or someone who is succeeding him? somebody should make a move soon and topple n. korea.

It says right in the article that his son is a likely successor, who China likes as their next yappy guard dog.

[farmteam]

Well, according to the article, he does have a son.

 

Chung also said Kim Jong-Il's first son, Jong-Nam, has backing from the Chinese leadership to be North Korea's next leader. However, his maverick lifestyle has caused him to lose his father's favor, Chung said.

Kim Jong-Nam was arrested on arrival in Japan in 2001 for using a forged Dominican passport.

 

Jong-Nam is also involved in the North's missile sales, Chung said, citing sources.

[HuskyCaucasian]

[Flash Tizzle]

RUH ROH

[jackie hayes]

Damn you. I so had that one.

[Rex Kickass]

I would also point out that although Drudge cites this source often, it usually ends up wrong.

[Texsox]

the psycho we know is always somehow more comforting then the unknown psycho.

[southsider2k5]

I think historically dictators like this make the people around themselves so weak that when it comes time for succession, there ends up being an ugly brutal fight. Hopefully it at least means whoever takes over will look somewhat to the outside world for help because there are still an insane number of people dying of starvation there. NK is a mess after repeated (mostly self-imposed) famines, and terrible choices economically (way too much on military, nothing on things like food) the country is on the verge of collapse. Whoever takes over will probably have a revolution on their hands if they don't immediately and brutally make their "strength" known to the country.

[Texsox]

I think historically dictators like this make the people around themselves so weak that when it comes time for succession, there ends up being an ugly brutal fight. Hopefully it at least means whoever takes over will look somewhat to the outside world for help because there are still an insane number of people dying of starvation there. NK is a mess after repeated (mostly self-imposed) famines, and terrible choices economically (way too much on military, nothing on things like food) the country is on the verge of collapse. Whoever takes over will probably have a revolution on their hands if they don't immediately and brutally make their "strength" known to the country.

 

So Uth Si Der for ruller of Korea

[DBAHO]

And then this;

 

A NIECE of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il killed herself in Paris, probably because she did not want to return to her home in the reclusive state, Yonhap news agency reported today.

 

Jang Keum-song, 29, died last nonth in Paris – where she was studying – because of what appeared to be an overdose of sleeping pills taken after drinking alcohol, Yonhap cited a source in Seoul with access to intelligence on North Korea as saying.

 

It said Jang's body, which was found by her bodyguard, was subsequently sent back to Pyongyang.

 

Daily NK (www.dailynk.com), a South Korean Internet news service run by conservative journalists and defectors from the North, quoted a source in Europe as saying Jang apparently committed suicide.

 

Authorities in France and an official at the North Korean representation in Paris could not immediately confirm the reports.

[Balta1701]

I think historically dictators like this make the people around themselves so weak that when it comes time for succession, there ends up being an ugly brutal fight. Hopefully it at least means whoever takes over will look somewhat to the outside world for help because there are still an insane number of people dying of starvation there. NK is a mess after repeated (mostly self-imposed) famines, and terrible choices economically (way too much on military, nothing on things like food) the country is on the verge of collapse. Whoever takes over will probably have a revolution on their hands if they don't immediately and brutally make their "strength" known to the country.

Well, there's 1 issue here though that I don't know if we've ever seen before except in the collapse of the Soviet Union...the potential for a significant change of power (i.e. a revolution and not an election) in a country that has nuclear weapons.

 

That just sort of ratchets up the whole situation to another level. Whoever winds up with the support of whatever faction of the country controls the bombs may very well be the only one who has a chance to win. Or it could wind up totally destroying the country, and maybe taking Japan or Soeul out with it.

Edited September 15, 2006 by Balta1701

[HuskyCaucasian]

Damn you. I so had that one.