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QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 23, 2007 -> 10:53 PM)
SPOILER!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did Charlie die???

Couldn't he have walked out the door and closed it behind him?

 

...and WTF?!? Is Mikhail the friggin Terminator?!?

 

I think Charlie closed the door so nothing would change. It had to be done that way.

 

And I think Mikael can't die like how Richard doesn't age.

 

WHOA! With this post, I have exactly 1,647 posts on both TalkBears and here, which makes up of a total of 3294!

 

Talk about a lost moment :D

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QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 23, 2007 -> 09:53 PM)
Why did Charlie die???

Couldn't he have walked out the door and closed it behind him?

I am pretty sure that door locked from the inside only, so the water would just push it open unless they really baracaded it somehow.

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QUOTE(BearSox @ May 23, 2007 -> 10:56 PM)
I think Charlie closed the door so nothing would change. It had to be done that way.

 

And I think Mikael can't die like how Richard doesn't age.

Ypu're right...I keep forgetting. Desmond told him he had to die or Claire wouldn't get off the island.

So he let himself die.

 

Note ot NBC and FOX...THAT'S how you do a season finale!

 

LOST just took the Emmy from The Sopranos.

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Wow, I don't even know how to describe how I'm feeling after that. I really wish there were only 2 seasons left instead of 3.

 

And who the hell are the people on the boat that Naomi was with?

 

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 17, 2007 -> 02:52 PM)
Yes, that is Nadia that Charlie helps.

Who's Nadia btw?

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It clearly says clinton portis.

 

i really liked this finale but hated this "future look" thing they did with Jack. Absolutely hated it. Was jumping up and down when sayid was still alive thou, just the boost i needed after seeing this terrrrrible sox game live.

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QUOTE(bmags @ May 24, 2007 -> 06:47 AM)
It clearly says clinton portis.

 

i really liked this finale but hated this "future look" thing they did with Jack. Absolutely hated it. Was jumping up and down when sayid was still alive thou, just the boost i needed after seeing this terrrrrible sox game live.

 

last night i wasn't sure how i felt about the future look, but after a night to rest on it i am more comfortable with it.

 

more importantly, i'm really curious how it affects the story and approach going forward. do we now pick up in the present and what happens on the island from communication with the boat becomes the flashback. or, was the future look a "potential" future, not the reality.

 

either way, well done. this show kicks ass.

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I think the future look was done to shift the focus off of "will they get off the island?" to "WTF is this island, and what happens between then (radio tower) and now (Jack at airport)."

 

I don't think it was a "possible" future or anything like that.

 

As far as Jack's dad goes, I think that he never told anyone he was dead.

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I read the Spoliers and knew it was the future. What I thought would happen was that Jack was all f***ed up because he let Sayid, Jin and the dentist (forget his name) die and Ben was right. When they were alive I was really fired up.

 

My main problem is the stupidity of Jack to not listen to Locke and always believe he is right. I am not sure if this is intentional though.

 

I felt good for Rousseau and Hugo. The van thing was kind of corny but you gotta like Hugo.

 

I forgot I was watching tv during the episode.

 

I am not sure we are suppossed to even know who the dead guy is right now and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

Awesome show.

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QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:50 PM)
I am not sure we are suppossed to even know who the dead guy is right now and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

here is a theory on the name in the article. it's not a spoiler, just a theory. i pulled it from another board:

 

In 3x22, the season finale, "Through the Looking Glass", we find a very broken and strung out Jack. When he learns of someone's death, he nearly kills himself. He attends the visitation, and learns that no one else came. But, who died?! All we have is a blurry obit image. Who's death could have shaken Jack so profoundly? Some speculate the name on the obit is Jeremy Bentham.

 

Jeremy Bentham was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He is best known as an early advocate of utilitarianism and animal rights who influenced the development of liberalism.

 

He invented the Panopticon. The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe all prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a "sentiment of an invisible omniscience." In his own words, Bentham described the Panopticon as "a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example."

 

He also lead the Jacobin Terrorist (Jacob reference?). The Jacobin Club was the largest and most powerful political club of the French Revolution. It originated as the Club Breton, formed at Versailles as a group of Breton deputies to the Estates General of 1789. At the height of its influence, there were between five and eight thousand chapters throughout France, with a membership estimated at 500,000. After the fall of Robespierre the club was closed.

 

Here's a partial transcript of the obit:

Man found -------

downtown loft

 

The body of J --- entham of

New York was --- shortly after 4

a.m. in the ---- of Grand

Avenue

 

------------------- at The

---------------------- loud

---------------------- man's loft.

-------------------- safety, he

----------------------- the

-------------------- the

-------------- a beam in the

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QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 24, 2007 -> 08:50 AM)
I felt good for Rousseau and Hugo. The van thing was kind of corny but you gotta like Hugo.

 

To me that was one of the 'Stand up and Cheer' moments of the series!

Which is what I did and scared my family upstairs!!

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QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 24, 2007 -> 07:56 AM)
To me that was one of the 'Stand up and Cheer' moments of the series!

Which is what I did and scared my family upstairs!!

 

Yeah, it's funny. The episode where they found the van was at the time considered by many purists as "filler"... instead that episode set up the "Roger Workman" story line and set up a fairly iconic moment: Hurley saves the day.

 

And to think, they'd all have been screwed if Ben was a decent human being and had Richard recover the van and Roger's body.

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What an incredible episode.

 

The big detail that blew my mind was Jack referring to his dad like he was still alive. I wonder if that was just a drunken slipup, or if that was a big tip to the future?

 

I know I wasn't the only one hoping Jack killed Ben after Ben told Tom to kill the 3 hostages. I was really surprised that he didn't, because what leverage did Ben have to stay alive? The hostages were dead, Ben had no way left of contacting the outside world, or anyway to get anyone off of the Island. I was shocked they let him live.

 

The scene with Kate at the end was incredible. I think everyone's jaw dropped when it was her, and not the Ex who came walking up. But with Kate, how is she not in jail? If she got rescued, shouldn't she still have had those pesky murders hanging over her head?

 

I still want to know who the funeral was for. I guess there are a few possibilities if you think about it. The most convincing to me is Ben. After that I would guess Locke, because he kept trying to make sure they couldn't get off of the Island.

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2007 -> 09:26 AM)
What an incredible episode.

 

The big detail that blew my mind was Jack referring to his dad like he was still alive. I wonder if that was just a drunken slipup, or if that was a big tip to the future?

 

I know I wasn't the only one hoping Jack killed Ben after Ben told Tom to kill the 3 hostages. I was really surprised that he didn't, because what leverage did Ben have to stay alive? The hostages were dead, Ben had no way left of contacting the outside world, or anyway to get anyone off of the Island. I was shocked they let him live.

 

The scene with Kate at the end was incredible. I think everyone's jaw dropped when it was her, and not the Ex who came walking up. But with Kate, how is she not in jail? If she got rescued, shouldn't she still have had those pesky murders hanging over her head?

 

I still want to know who the funeral was for. I guess there are a few possibilities if you think about it. The most convincing to me is Ben. After that I would guess Locke, because he kept trying to make sure they couldn't get off of the Island.

 

 

I watched the episode after Am Idol and the Sox game and still woke up at 5am. I loved this episode. I literally got chills when it looked like the future with Kate and Jack. I am a little confused how Mikail was able to obtain SCUBA gear so fast to go after Desmond. And is Penny just randomly sending messages to that station for no reason? It just seems weird. What would have been best was to wait for all 6 seasons to complete and then pick a cold, snowy long weekend to stay in and watch it straight through.

 

Is Jack's dad really dead? Wasn't his body on the plane? Didn't Jack find the coffin a few years ago? 9 months for another episode. I started to hate the show when it came back in February. Now I can't wait.

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QUOTE(retro1983hat @ May 24, 2007 -> 12:03 PM)
I watched the episode after Am Idol and the Sox game and still woke up at 5am. I loved this episode. I literally got chills when it looked like the future with Kate and Jack. I am a little confused how Mikail was able to obtain SCUBA gear so fast to go after Desmond. And is Penny just randomly sending messages to that station for no reason? It just seems weird. What would have been best was to wait for all 6 seasons to complete and then pick a cold, snowy long weekend to stay in and watch it straight through.

 

Is Jack's dad really dead? Wasn't his body on the plane? Didn't Jack find the coffin a few years ago? 9 months for another episode. I started to hate the show when it came back in February. Now I can't wait.

 

You know, this reminds me... way back in the first season, Jack was randomly "seeing" his dad around the island... this was never explained. Now that we know the island has crazy powers and the dead can be alive and people can "not" age, and locke has healing powers... perhaps his father is alive again?

 

oddly enough, its just a thought.

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