ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:44 AM) I agree with all of that, and I certainly don't use numbers when I judge teams who I'm picking to go further in my bracket, that's for sure. That being said, it's completely wrong imo for someone to just say "Well Florida State is better than Winthrop, so they belong in the tournament,"(just using those two teams cause that was the example on gamenight). Now if Florida State has more quality wins, has played a better schedule, etc then ya, they deserve to be in there over the Eagles. It's just completely unfair to pick FSU over Winthrop because someone thinks they're better, jmo. As far as the rpi, it has it's flaws, no doubt. I like it as a tool and that's it, nothing more. I don't think it's the main tool someone should use, but I do like it to group together teams if that makes sense. I agree, you can't just go based totally subjectively either. Ideally there's a bit of a balance in the process. Generally I think the committee does alright, they have one of the most thankless jobs out there and generally do pretty well. I just personally hate that whenever a team comes up RPI is the first thing that is mentioned, that puts a lot of emphasis on who you've played as opposed to who you've beaten (of course the next problem is figuring out who's good and who's not without getting too subjective. Kind of a Catch 22). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:49 AM) I can't take any complaint that Jim Boeheim makes seriously until he actually schedules a game outside the state of New York in their non conference schedule. Ding! That's the reason some of the major conference coaches really dislike the rpi, because it favors teams who win on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:49 AM) I can't take any complaint that Jim Boeheim makes seriously until he actually schedules a game outside the state of New York in their non conference schedule. Coming up with valid comments and altering your schedule to look better in a ratings system you don't like/believe in are two different things entirely. Besides, there are plenty of major teams that don't play a whole lot of true road games out of conferece (again, cough* Duke cough cough* ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 latest bracketology has Florida losing their #1 seed, but its not Kansas that picked it up. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 That is fine, but lunardi moved kansas to the East which makes no sense. They should be the 2 in the midwest right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:50 PM) That is fine, but lunardi moved kansas to the East which makes no sense. They should be the 2 in the midwest right now. I guess his reasoning is Chicago is closer to Lawerence than New Orleans. I for one, will not complain with that logic. Jimbo, you have tourney tickets for United Center?? I have tix for the 1st and 2nd rounds in Lexington, but holding out to see what has better matchups and seeds as to where I attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 KU will be in chicago, and i will get tix there when its announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The problem with the RPI is that most people don't know how to read it correctly. No, it is not an exact ranking, but there there is a lot more to it than that. You have to look at a team's RPI case by case. I use the RPI almost exclusively when filling out my brackets and it helps a lot. Last year in a bracket pool of something like 5 million entrants, I had a basically perfect one and finished in the top 250(some of it was luck too). You have to know which teams beat the system and which ones don't, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) That is fine, but lunardi moved kansas to the East which makes no sense. They should be the 2 in the midwest right now. why should they be the 2 in the midwest?? if you do the rankings on an S-curve thats where they fall they only get placed into a specific pod for the opening round; kansas wont get placed in the midwest being a #2 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Trying to sort out the Big Ten: Indiana over NU Iowa over PSU Purdue over Minnesota Wisconsin over MSU Purdue over NU OSU over Michigan IU over PSU Iowa over Illinois(HUGE swing game. The Big Ten bracket will be defined by this game. Illinois is looking at anywhere from a 3 to 8 seed, probably in between 4 and 7 though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Kansas can be in the West and still have their round played in Chicago. If you didnt notice Wisconsin was moved from the Midwest to the South, but still is playing in Chicago. The name of the bracket has nothing to do with where they are actually being played anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Does anyone know what the reasoning for switching from the city names to the geographic names? They just started using cities a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Wilmont with the luckiest 40 seconds I've ever seen from a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 05:20 PM) Kansas can be in the West and still have their round played in Chicago. If you didnt notice Wisconsin was moved from the Midwest to the South, but still is playing in Chicago. The name of the bracket has nothing to do with where they are actually being played anymore. Which confuses the living s*** out of me. I hated that change. QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 05:34 PM) Does anyone know what the reasoning for switching from the city names to the geographic names? They just started using cities a few years ago. Because of the change in the way they do the first couple rounds. It all came about after 91 to make teams travel less. It gets confusing when they are saying we are here in Cincinnati for a West Region first round game between Ohio State and Crappy U. Edited March 1, 2007 by Rex Hudler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 That was(n't) scary. Wilmont becomes the first player in Indiana history to hit 9 trey's in a game. Barring the unthinkable (a loss at home to Penn State), IU has secured themselves 3rd place in the Big Ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hey Jason...your Hawkeyes just lost to Penn St Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Iowa is NIT bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) Okay, so Indiana looked highly unimpressive to me tonight. They barely got by a Northwestern team that is pretty bad and blew multiple chances all night to take a lead in the game. If not for some guy (Wilmont) that I've never heard of until that game playing the game of his life, they would've gotten stomped. Yes, I know every team has down games, but man, Indiana just did not look good besides Wilmont. Oh, and wow, Penn St. just upset Iowa. Great win for them. Edited March 1, 2007 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Wilmont's the second best guy on the team; KW would call him a grinder if he played baseball. He does a lot of dirty work. He has at least a game a month like tonight's. As for the Hoosiers, I'm not expecting anything for us in the tournament this year. I'll be happy with a first round win. I just want to make sure DJ's around for next year. If that happens, I'll consider this season a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 01:58 AM) Wilmont's the second best guy on the team; KW would call him a grinder if he played baseball. He does a lot of dirty work. Oh, whoops. Damn, I've watched a couple of Indiana games this year, and truthfully, I don't remember that guy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Someone doesnt watch a lot of Big 10 basketball. Welsh Ryan can be a really tough place to play for whatever reason. Wisconsin only won by 6, and OSU won by 9. Comparitively at home, OSU beat them by 30+ and Wisconsin won by 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 02:06 AM) Someone doesnt watch a lot of Big 10 basketball. Welsh Ryan can be a really tough place to play for whatever reason. Wisconsin only won by 6, and OSU won by 9. Comparitively at home, OSU beat them by 30+ and Wisconsin won by 17. Naw, I do watch a good bit of Big 10 basketball. Not as much as I used to, but enough. I know all about Welsh Ryan. Still, it wasn't like NU played the game of their life and almost won (which is kinda what happened when they played Wisky/OSU; i.e. Jeff Ryan dropping 18 on Wisky. How often does he do that?)... NU played pretty poorly and IU just didn't take advantage. Man, I'm not gonna win this argument with all these Big 10 people on this board, so I guess I'll just stop. Indiana is a solid team, and I'll leave it at that. Edited March 1, 2007 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Im just saying Indiana won the game at an arena that notoriously has an upset or 2 each year. Maybe not the most impressive win, but at this point winning is winning. And Im not saying NU is that good of a team, just for whatever reason when they play at home they are actually semi-competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Scottie Reynolds just dropped 40 on UConn. Is he going pro? I know this draft is reasonably deep, but not the PG part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Acie Law is just insane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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