danman31 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 To be fair you don't know what is better to have. Weber coached Self's recruits to a national title game. Weber only made the 2nd round last year and isn't looking great talent wise this year. This year will be a telling tale for Weber because it's almost all his recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 26, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) Well here are the matchups for this week's ACC/Big Ten Challenge. If someone knows how to do one big poll in a separate thread that would be cool. Monday Michigan @ NC State - 6:00 ESPN2 Tuesday Maryland @ Illinois - 6:00 ESPN Florida ST @ Wisconsin - 6:30 ESPN2 Penn St. @ GA Tech - 7:00 ESPNU Indiana @ Duke - 8:00 ESPN Miami @ Northwestern - 8:30 ESPN2 Wednesday Michigan St @ Boston College - 6:00 ESPN Virginia @ Purdue - 6:30 ESPN2 Iowa @ Va Tech - 7:00 ESPNU Ohio State @ North Carolina - 8:00 ESPN Clemson @ Minnesota - 8:30 ESPN2 I don't see too many sure Big Ten wins in there. Thoughts?? I see three wins for the Big Ten (Michigan, Wisky, Purdue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 QUOTE(danman31 @ Nov 26, 2006 -> 11:46 PM) To be fair you don't know what is better to have. Weber coached Self's recruits to a national title game. Weber only made the 2nd round last year and isn't looking great talent wise this year. This year will be a telling tale for Weber because it's almost all his recruits. People in IL are saying its a "rebuilding year." Well the only reason it is that, is because Weber cant bring in the same talent level as he inherited. I do not plan on seeing U of I in the national title picture for several more years, unless he gets lucky. QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 26, 2006 -> 07:35 PM) And it's clear on what is better to have. Not sure who you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 New ESPN/USA Today rankings are out and can be seen here. I'll wait for someone else to format it properly, but Ohio State is their new number one, followed by UCLA, Pitt, Florida, and Kansas. Marquette cracks the top ten at number nine, while Wisconsin falls to 13. Butler's in at #18, and Wichita State is there at 22. U of I is right on the Top 25 cusp (they'll certainly be in with a W over Maryland), receiving the most votes for a non-Top 25 team, and I'm surprised that the Salukis aren't being respected yet, only getting a couple of votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 I was looking forward to these... Week 4 ESPN/USA Today Poll 1. Ohio State (11) 6-0 740 2. UCLA (13) 4-0 734 3. Pittsburgh (5) 6-0 708 4. Florida (2) 6-1 690 5. Kansas 5-1 572 6. North Carolina 4-1 571 7. Alabama 5-0 566 8. Texas A&M 5-0 532 9. Marquette 6-0 450 10. Duke 5-1 424 11. Washington 5-0 393 12. LSU 2-1 379 13. Wisconsin 5-1 373 14. Syracuse 6-0 325 15. Connecticut 5-0 308 16. Arizona 3-1 298 17. Memphis 3-1 263 18. Butler 7-0 232 19. Maryland 7-0 209 20. Nevada 5-0 205 21. Gonzaga 6-1 201 22. Wichita State 4-0 187 23. Georgetown 3-1 179 24. Georgia Tech 5-1 175 25. Texas 4-1 69 OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES Illinois 52, San Diego State 44, Michigan State 42, Air Force 35, Oklahoma State 24, Michigan 24, Arkansas 20, Kentucky 13, Xavier 10, Louisville 6, Tennessee 5, Creighton 4, Oral Roberts 4, Oregon 3, Brigham Young 3, Southern Illinois 2, Virginia 1. DROPPED FROM RANKINGS Tennessee 21, Kentucky 22. Week 4 AP Top 25 1. UCLA (36) 4-0 1,727 2. Pittsburgh (18) 6-0 1,666 3. Ohio State (15) 6-0 1,649 4. Florida (3) 6-1 1,576 5. Kansas 5-1 1,490 6. Alabama 5-0 1,404 7. North Carolina 4-1 1,389 8. Marquette 6-0 1,240 9. Texas A&M 5-0 1,213 10. LSU 2-1 985 11. Duke 5-1 946 12. Wisconsin 5-1 807 13. Washington 5-0 731 14. Memphis 3-1 685 15. Syracuse 6-0 662 16. Arizona 3-1 652 17. Wichita State 4-0 635 18. Georgetown 3-1 628 19. Butler 7-0 572 20. Connecticut 5-0 516 21. Georgia Tech 5-1 511 22. Gonzaga 6-1 421 23. Maryland 7-0 376 24. Nevada 5-0 349 25. Virginia 4-0 91 OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES Texas 89, Xavier 54, Oklahoma State 43, Michigan State 42, Missouri State 37, Kentucky 37, Arkansas 33, Illinois 33, San Diego State 22, Southern Illinois 21, Creighton 15, Tennessee 11, Air Force 8, Florida State 5, George Washington 4, Michigan 4, West Virginia 4, Bradley 3, Old Dominion 3, Louisville 3, Massachusetts 2, New Mexico 2, Oregon 1, Holy Cross 1, Villanova 1, Wake Forest 1. DROPPED FROM RANKINGS Kentucky 20, Tennessee 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) Yeesh. No respect for the Dawgs. We're going to have to have to run the rest of our OOC sched to make it to the top 25 me thinks. I can't believe we got a whole 2 votes in the ESPN poll, very interesting. EDIT: And where the hell is Missouri State in the ESPN poll, NO VOTES?!? They beat Wisconsin and lose to a pretty good Okie State team in OT and they get no votes? Man, the more I think the Valley proves itself, the less it seems to get respected. Edited November 27, 2006 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Man, I love the Bucks, but a #1 ranking is a bit premature IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 LMAO at OSU at number one. Who exposes them first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 27, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) LMAO at OSU at number one. Who exposes them first? UNC, 2 nights from now. They are a good team, but do not deserve the #1 at this moment in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 UCLA is my number one, but I'm surprised at the difference in the polls, notably at the bottom. Missouri State gets no votes in one poll and is almost ranked in the other. Virginia is ranked in the AP but gets one vote in the ESPN. I have to agree with the AP poll more this time around. How can LSU be so much higher than Wichita State in both polls? Wichita State won in LSU and is undefeated. I guess it's irrelevant anyway at this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 OSU can really shoot 3's, which is what UNC struggles with the most defending. I fully expect OSU to go off against UNC and make it a great game at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 27, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) OSU can really shoot 3's, which is what UNC struggles with the most defending. I fully expect OSU to go off against UNC and make it a great game at the very least. With Oden, I would say OSu would win this game, without the big presence, I would say I am confident, but they may not be ready for the tarheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I'm still holding out hope for a Willis Reed like appearance for Oden in the game, but without the inspirational win part for OSU. I want to see all that talent battle, especially in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Someone needs to avatar this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Does the Big 10/ACC Challenge start tonight or tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Tonight....... Michigan @ NC State The other 10 games are Tuesday and Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The Big Ten COULD start the Challenge 3-0 and not win another game. I think they will end up winning 4 or 5 games but I am not going to try and guess which ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I don't mean to call anyone out, but anyone who thought NC State actually had a chance in this game, well, yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Im just hoping Wisconsin beats FSU. Atleast it will be on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Petway can jump... QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 27, 2006 -> 06:17 PM) I don't mean to call anyone out, but anyone who thought NC State actually had a chance in this game, well, yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 And NC State takes the lead, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Michigan might want to wake up for the sake of the big 10. Pack up 7 at the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 In a game the B10 needed, UM gets beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 27, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) In a game the B10 needed, UM gets beat. Amaker sucks hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Marquette having some trouble with Valpo. MU down by four about halfway through the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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