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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 05:01 PM)
:lolhitting

 

I think Bilas just said something about being on Chris Paul's and Deron Williams' level. LMAO

 

I can't get my validation mail from Talk Bulls to send, anyone want to help me out.

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Congrats to John Paxson, you now have Tyson Chandler....except not nearly as good. At least Tyson was tall and had projectable NBA ability to rebound. This has to be the worst draft pick by a Chicago team since the McNown and Enis days. I officially am against John Paxson, what an idiot.

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Paxson's high character picks and such are really starting to make him look dumb and bite him in the butt. He takes a front court guy with no scoring ability, so when Noah and Big Ben are playing together you have to guard 3 guys, and this team still doesn't have a 2 that can score. Ridiculous.

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 07:30 PM)
Congrats to John Paxson, you now have Tyson Chandler....except not nearly as good. At least Tyson was tall and had projectable NBA ability to rebound. This has to be the worst draft pick by a Chicago team since the McNown and Enis days. I officially am against John Paxson, what an idiot.

 

Umm Noah is a legit 7 footer and one of his strongest assets is his rebounding. If you dont like the pick thats fine but what you said just doesnt make sense.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:26 PM)
f***.

 

I hope they trade him, gosh damnit, Noah has no f***ing offensive game. He's doesn't help the Bulls at all.

Yeah, I'm not sure I get this.

 

I don't dislike Noah, he could fill an important role on a good team. But it seems like that role is already filled on the Bulls, by more than one player. He seems redundant. (Except that he has a bit more height -- I'll grant that.)

 

I don't see either Noah or Hawes making much of a difference for the Bulls next year, but at least Hawes could be an important player in a couple years. Noah, I'm not so sure.

 

I'm not as upset as most. I'm just unsure. Really, Pax has made very few bad decisions, so I can't get too worked up about it.

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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 12:39 AM)
Yeah, I'm not sure I get this.

 

I don't dislike Noah, he could fill an important role on a good team. But it seems like that role is already filled on the Bulls, by more than one player. He seems redundant. (Except that he has a bit more height -- I'll grant that.)

 

I don't see either Noah or Hawes making much of a difference for the Bulls next year, but at least Hawes could be an important player in a couple years. Noah, I'm not so sure.

 

I'm not as upset as most. I'm just unsure. Really, Pax has made very few bad decisions, so I can't get too worked up about it.

 

Who knows, you could be right -- the Bulls may end up trading him.

 

I'll say this about Noah -- he should be an above average defender in the paint against #4s and some #5s (the non-gigantic centers, like say Rasheed Wallace). He fits in as one of these 'new generation' defenders, ie I can see him being a guy who really knows how to utilize the flop charge to his advantage.

 

But am I wrong in saying that that's not the type of 'ceiling' guy I want at the ninth overall pick, that I want more than an Anderson Varejao type (and I'm not just saying that because of the hair)? I don't know how anyone in their right mind could project any offensive game down the road for Noah besides "good at wide open dunks". People (ehem Jay Bilas) says his jumpshot is ugly but effective. Effective? What? If Noah wants to take a jump shot outside of ten feet and I'm on defense, I'll kindly show him where the rim is so he'll take the shot.

 

Gosh damn... You're right in saying that Pax should've earned the fans' trust by now, but it's still very frustrating. It's going to be very tough for me to root for him.

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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 07:33 PM)
Umm Noah is a legit 7 footer and one of his strongest assets is his rebounding. If you dont like the pick thats fine but what you said just doesnt make sense.

 

Noah will not be half the rebounder Tyson is, and will be his equal on the offensive end. And we have Ben Wallace. I can't put into words how bad this pick is.

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Nothing to do with his skills, I just loath the Bulls pick from what I heard in a TV interview. He is the most arrogant athletes to never produce that I have ever heard. But a bet a lot of 14 year old girls will be wearing his jersey because he has nice hair. Nice job Pax!

 

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 07:55 PM)
I say we riot.

 

 

... first stop, George Offman's house, than the Score, than Paxson..

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:49 PM)
Who knows, you could be right -- the Bulls may end up trading him.

 

I'll say this about Noah -- he should be an above average defender in the paint against #4s and some #5s (the non-gigantic centers, like say Rasheed Wallace). He fits in as one of these 'new generation' defenders, ie I can see him being a guy who really knows how to utilize the flop charge to his advantage.

 

But am I wrong in saying that that's not the type of 'ceiling' guy I want at the ninth overall pick, that I want more than an Anderson Varejao type (and I'm not just saying that because of the hair)? I don't know how anyone in their right mind could project any offensive game down the road for Noah besides "good at wide open dunks". People (ehem Jay Bilas) says his jumpshot is ugly but effective. Effective? What? If Noah wants to take a jump shot outside of ten feet and I'm on defense, I'll kindly show him where the rim is so he'll take the shot.

 

Gosh damn... You're right in saying that Pax should've earned the fans' trust by now, but it's still very frustrating. It's going to be very tough for me to root for him.

I'm just saying he's earned my trust. Question away, I'm not trying to quiet anyone with that comment. Partially, it's just because I follow basketball a lot less closely that baseball and football, and so I don't trust my opinions.

 

You really think he's comparable to Varejao? Ouch...

 

I'd agree, his offensive skills won't see much improvement at all. He'll never, ever be a scorer. I just look at him as a defender-rebounder.

 

I keep looking back to the Pistons series. Joakim Noah is a useful player, but the Bulls still get rolled in that series, even with a surprisingly good Noah. That's my standard right now, and I don't think this team has found any real answers to the questions that series raised.

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I bet in a year we'll all be thanking Paxon for this pick

 

sure he's not a scorer, but good defense and rebounding can't hurt us

 

and with Tyrus Thomas a year older maybe he will develop into a low-post threat

 

and honestly who's better? Hawes is a 7 footer with no rebounding ability. that guy should have been a defensive freak, and its a huge redflag as an athlete to not dominate people half his own size. Hawes would probably negate his offense by allowing too many people to score on him

 

so even if Noah doesn't 100% fulfill our needs, he was the best pick to take

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