Brian Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 My dad is friends with the brother of the agent for Juan Pierre, also the agent for Jim Thome. He just got off the phone with him and he said it is looking pretty good that Juan Pierre will be signing with us after November 1st. Obviously things can change and should be taken as speculation and rumor as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I'm not even that big of a Pierre fan, but he's certainly a better player than Brian Anderson is at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 i wouldnt be suprised. It seems like there isnt a lot Pierre fans, but i like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 I like his speed, I like that he had over 200 hits in a season, and I think he plays a fine CF, but BA easily has the better arm. Hate the low OBP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) I'm not even that big of a Pierre fan, but he's certainly a better player than Brian Anderson is at this point. I'm sure Brian Anderson will not improve this winter. f*** defense anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Serh Lame! in other news Brian Anderson has gone missing on the Tiburones de La Guaira roster and Sweeney has been seeing time in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) i wouldnt be suprised. It seems like there isnt a lot Pierre fans, but i like him. I've actually grown to love this idea. If Ozzie's going to try and play Ozzieball, we might as well have someone who can steal bases, create situations with his speed, bunt, and make contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 maybe we keep pierre and stick him in left, send pods packing and keep anderson in CF batting 9th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alk3kevin Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Pierre isn't worth more than 2 million a year, and I want him nowhere near this team. If KW and Ozzie don't see eye to eye on baseball, KW needs to axe him, not compromise his interests by signing garbage like Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 With all our HR power, why not just play Pierre in left and have him replace Pods. I have zero problem with it because he's the exact sort of guy we need to have in our lineup if Ozzie is going to continue to be our manager (which he will). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(Craig Grebeck @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) Pierre isn't worth more than 2 million a year, and I want him nowhere near this team. If KW and Ozzie don't see eye to eye on baseball, KW needs to axe him, not compromise his interests by signing garbage like Pierre. Really? "garbage" Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) I'm not even that big of a Pierre fan, but he's certainly a better player than Brian Anderson is at this point. he'll be brought in to replace iPods and probably play left (unless the move Anderson to left)/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:43 PM) he'll be brought in to replace iPods and probably play left (unless the move Anderson to left)/ If they acquire Pierre and still start Anderson, there is zero reason to flip Anderson to left. Brian is an outstanding centerfielder. Too bad Pierre doesn't play shortstop. That would solve so many problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) If they acquire Pierre and still start Anderson, there is zero reason to flip Anderson to left. Brian is an outstanding centerfielder. Oh I totally agree. I would keep Anderson in center. Just saying that it is a possibily. Anderson ahs the better arm. If Anderson falters, Pierre moves to center and Sweeny could play left. Or, try to get Sweeney used to center. Many possibilites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Fun. I can't wait til we sign him to a four year deal, and he's completely useless going into year three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) I'm not even that big of a Pierre fan, but he's certainly a better player than Brian Anderson is at this point. not defensively, so how is he better? Plus Pierre isnt going to take BA's spot, he will take POD's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Brian Anderson was one of the worst offensive players in all of baseball in one of the most forgiving hitters parks. I value defense just as much as the next, but Pierre would be an upgrade over Anderson as a whole in my opinion, especially considering Ozzie Guillen would rather place Thome or Konerko in center than Anderson it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Has Pierre ever played LF? I wouldn't mind it. I'll take a few more bunt hits and sacrifices over a few more walks. Ozzie isn't Billy Beane, he's not an OBP fanatic. Ozzie likes to put pressure on the opposing defense and trying tolure them into making mistakes. Plus, he has a great relationship with Ozzie. It's not an ideal signing, but it works for the direction the team wants to go in, so why the heck not? Maybe he'll give us a Jermaine Dye Discount®? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) I've actually grown to love this idea. If Ozzie's going to try and play Ozzieball, we might as well have someone who can steal bases, create situations with his speed, bunt, and make contact. Watch it last for one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 03:28 PM) Brian Anderson was one of the worst offensive players in all of baseball in one of the most forgiving hitters parks. I value defense just as much as the next, but Pierre would be an upgrade over Anderson as a whole in my opinion, especially considering Ozzie Guillen would rather place Thome or Konerko in center than Anderson it seems. Worst offensive players in baseball huh? Well he was a rookie, and after half of a season of scuffling he put up .257 .301 post all star. If that is one of the worst in baseball then I significantly underestimated the futility in the MLB. Also he is one of the top defensive CF'ers, which is a huge upgrade over anyone that we can put in that position. Pierre would be an upgrade offensively, but a HUGE downgrade defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Signing Juan Pierre would be the rough equivalent of the huge blunder made by signing Royce Clayton to play SS in 2001. Pierre was 51st out of 58 rankable outfielders last year in terms of runs created per game (RC27), which is a very good measure of offensive production. Yes, he beat out Scott Podsednik, who finished dead last -- 58th place -- but that's not saying much, is it? PLEASE, DON'T ADVOCATE SIGNING JUAN PIERRE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 03:28 PM) Brian Anderson was one of the worst offensive players in all of baseball in one of the most forgiving hitters parks. I value defense just as much as the next, but Pierre would be an upgrade over Anderson as a whole in my opinion, especially considering Ozzie Guillen would rather place Thome or Konerko in center than Anderson it seems. And you're supposed to judge players based on their rookie season. Throw out April and May and BA hits .280-.290. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 03:28 PM) Brian Anderson was one of the worst offensive players in all of baseball in one of the most forgiving hitters parks. I value defense just as much as the next, but Pierre would be an upgrade over Anderson as a whole in my opinion, especially considering Ozzie Guillen would rather place Thome or Konerko in center than Anderson it seems. And players have never improved in their second season in the majors. I still hate the idea of Pierre. The years where he had great seasons occurred in very spacious ballparks. US Cellular's a bandbox. I think there's reason enough, atleast for me, to believe that he could put up a .260/.300/.300/.600 line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 IF he's playing left field and never sniffs center and it's to a reasonable deal then I could deal with it. If he's coming in to take Brian's spot, then I'll be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I just wish that somehow our team could actually focus on finding a leadoff hitter who actually fits with the makeup of the rest of the team. We have a murderous 3-4-5 with a ton of power. We hit a sh*t load of home runs. Stealing bases in front of those type of guys does not have nearly as high of an impact on run production as simply being on base. It's not a bad thing if you're not thrown out a lot, but it's not going to be the end-all-be-all. If you could find me a LF/SS with an OBP somewhere above .350 or .360, I'd be very happy...and spend the rest of my money on pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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