KipWellsFan Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Boy's Penis in Father's Mouth 'Not a Sexual Act,' Webb Tells Radio Host... Developing... http://drudgereport.com/flashaw.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 :uhoh Kip, where is Webb saying its not a sexual act? I don't see that in the Drudge article, or the CNN ticker item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 11:08 AM) Boy's Penis in Father's Mouth 'Not a Sexual Act,' Webb Tells Radio Host... Developing... http://drudgereport.com/flashaw.htm There was a good diary entry on Kos about this where the author explained why it's not going to be enough for Webb to distance himself from the writings by saying it's just fiction. Much more effective for him to stress that these are fistionalized accounts of a very real level of depravity that existed in wartime post-war Vietnam, that exists in Thailand, and elsewhere. As a Vietnam vet, Webb would know this. As a war vet, people like John McCain who has lauded the realism of Webb's novels would know this. As somebody who didn't serve, Allen would not know this. That is a way to deflect this. Those passages are certainly disturbing, and the novels wouldn't be my cup of tea. But the portrayal is of scenes of human depravity and not eroticism. Webb can't ignore Allen's attack here and just hope it dies out. He needs to address it head-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 "It's not a sexual act," Webb told Plotkin regarding the "Lost Soldiers" excerpt. "I actually saw this happen in a slum in Bangkok when I was there as a journalist." http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Pa...L20061027c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) Webb can't ignore Allen's attack here and just hope it dies out. He needs to address it head-on. Gp, agree completely. If Dems didn't learn from Swift Boat that they have to hit back hard, then they really are asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Linkity. Virginia U.S. Senate candidate James Webb yesterday delivered his strongest criticism of incumbent Sen. George Allen of the fall campaign, vigorously defending himself against Allen's charges that he wrote sex-laced passages in his fiction novels. He called on voters to reject what he called the "smear tactics" of Allen and his campaign, who released excerpts Thursday from Webb's novels to the Drudge Report Web site and said the writings were lurid and inappropriate for a man seeking to serve in the Senate. "The fish rots from the head down," Webb (D) said, referring to his belief that Allen ® is responsible for his campaign staff's tactics and has now shown his true character. "Our government should no longer be in the hands of a group of unprincipled, small-minded, power-hungry character assassins." ... Webb, joined at a rally in Fairfax County by Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) and former governor Mark R. Warner (D), said that the Allen campaign is belittling his life as a soldier and the service members who study his works. Kaine and Warner predicted that Allen's late campaign maneuver would backfire. With some of the most forceful language he has used on the campaign trail, Webb said he was proud of his writing because it reflects the things he saw as a combat Marine in Vietnam and later as a journalist reporting on war-torn regions such as Beirut in the early 1980s. The one-time boxer charged that Allen, the son of a former Washington Redskins head coach, has lived a life of privilege as a "a pampered public official." Allen, who did not serve in the military, was a college football player at the University of Virginia and spent one summer working on a ranch. "When George Allen and his campaign take some small excerpts from my novels and not only criticizes them but uses them to question my ethics, my profession, my character, that is a line that should never be crossed," Webb said at Edgar Allen Poe Middle School in Annandale. "I have lived in the real world, and I have reported the real world in my writings. I started working when I was 12 years old, and I fought in a brutal war. I saw its ugliness while George Allen was hanging out at a dude ranch," Webb said at a get-out-the-vote rally attended by about 300 people. Allen said he spent time at a "real ranch" in Winnemucca, Nev., well after the end of the Vietnam War. Video/more text of Webb's full response can be found here. Supposedly he spends a while standing there reading reviews praising the book for its realism as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Webb said at Edgar Allen Poe Middle School there's some irony for you. One creepy author to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 http://www.slate.com/id/2152402/sidebar/2152443/ Take the 'writing dirty' quiz! While I would agree that this is a book, I can't help but remember when Scooter was in trouble, passages from his book being used to paint him as a devient sort of individual, and that these sort of writings were 'not a good thing'. The opinion at the time, at least among the media, wasthat Republicans that did this thing were 'bad'. So, can only Democrats write about sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 05:53 PM) http://www.slate.com/id/2152402/sidebar/2152443/ So, can only Democrats write about sex? Only Democrats can write about sex and make it interesting. GOP sex these days is apparently very boring and involves only one position, because as far as I can tell anymore the GOP only knows how to ƒuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) Only Democrats can write about sex and make it interesting. GOP sex these days is apparently very boring and involves only one position, because as far as I can tell anymore the GOP only knows how to ƒuck up. Of course it's only one position, they never flip flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 10:40 PM) Of course it's only one position, they never flip flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 10:40 PM) Of course it's only one position, they never flip flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Latest post fictiongate scandal polls: Garin Hart Yang (Dem poll) Webb (D) 43 (47 w/ leaners) Allen (R, inc) 38 (43 w/ leaners) Rasmussen Webb (D) 51 Allen (R, inc) 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Maybe I should have used my head and actually examined the details of this story before posting. I apologize, the thread should not be titled as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 If these polling numbers are correct it would appear this story would hurt Allen. If that is the case the voters must have viewed this as desperation on Allen's part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 09:40 PM) Of course it's only one position, they never flip flop Oops, There was one conservative that use to flip flop, however, he is now firmly in the fold, and no longer flip flops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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