Rowand44 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 10:36 PM) I just think your anger (for lack of a better term) is misdirected. The Cardinals didn't break any rules to get in, they just won a bad division. The 2004 Sox didn't get in with the same record, but that's not StL's fault either. The Sox have no one to blame but themselves for their failure to qualify, but that takes nothing away from what the Cardinals did. One thing has nothing to do with the other. And bear in mind that in the postseason the Cardinals beat the best team in the NL record-wise and the team that was the best in the AL for most of the season, so I think that deserves some respect as well. I'm not really mad at the Cardinals, them as a champion just kind of bugs me. I can't really explain it but that's just how I feel. Like I said, nobody can take away their championship there is just something that bothers me about the whole thing. Anywho, congrats to all the Cards fans and I'll stop being an ass about the whole situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) I just think your anger (for lack of a better term) is misdirected. The Cardinals didn't break any rules to get in, they just won a bad division. The 2004 Sox didn't get in with the same record, but that's not StL's fault either. The Sox have no one to blame but themselves for their failure to qualify, but that takes nothing away from what the Cardinals did. One thing has nothing to do with the other. And bear in mind that in the postseason the Cardinals beat the best team in the NL record-wise and the team that was the best in the AL for most of the season, so I think that deserves some respect as well. It sure did help that the Mets lost half their starting rotation. And you can only go so far with the injury card. I'm sure every team could tack on 5-10 more wins if every single one of their players were healthy the whole year. The Cards won a horrible division in a horrible league. Do they have to apologize for it? Of course not. But I don't see what's wrong in recognizing that they were FAR from a great team this year. Edited October 30, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) It sure did help that the Mets lost half their starting rotation. And you can only go so far with the injury card. I'm sure every team could tack on 5-10 more wins if every single one of their players were healthy the whole year. The Cards won a horrible division in a horrible league. Do they have to apologize for it? Of course not. But I don't see what's wrong in recognizing that they were FAR from a great team this year. There's nothing wrong with it. It just seems like some people are assuming that the Sox would have destroyed them in the Series, and I don't think it's a fair assumption. The Cards were the underdog in every postseason series, with the possible exception of the opening round vs. San Diego, which could have been a toss-up. They played teams with better records and beat them all. I'd like to think the Sox would have fared better against them (I still believe that the Sox would've repeated had they gotten in, but we'll obviously never know if that's true), but I'll bet the Padres, Mets, and Tigers' fans thought the same thing and got sent home by the Birds. I guess I'm just more inclined to point out their accomplishments than their shortcomings, but I suppose that's because they're my favorite National League team. I've said everything I can about this topic, so I will also stop being an ass about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 They might be the worst team to ever win the WS, but every other team is lined up behind them this season. If they are the worse talent wise, they found a way to make that little talent work. They won, so how was it such a "crappy" team was able to win? Managing? Team work? Lucky breaks? If they are the worse talent wise, that makes them all the more amazing. To finish ahead of better teams and make the playoffs, to win three rounds of playoffs, with worse talent, as underdogs, pulling off bigger and bigger upsets, is possible the greatest World Series feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 30, 2006 -> 01:59 AM) There's nothing wrong with it. It just seems like some people are assuming that the Sox would have destroyed them in the Series, and I don't think it's a fair assumption. No joke. Towards the end of the year we were losing to horses*** teams like the Royals and getting beat by the Tigers in a crucial series. Yet somehow it goes without saying that we'd have pounded the Cards. There's obviously a big disparity between the AL and NL, but it's been blown out of all right proportion. To think any team fronted by Pujols and Carpenter is a pushover is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I guess people dont remember last year when we were "lucky" in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 i agree, this was the worst world series winning team ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54778 I love the Onion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarlinFan84 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I am not a Cardinals fan by any means. In fact, I despise them. They horribly overrate their own players. I cant stand the way their organization is run(just like the yankees, just on a smaller scale...pathetic farm system, aging vets, allergic to producing players in-house...altho, Yadier and more recently Duncan are exceptions to the rule). TLR is the most overrated manager ever, he really is at times a truly horrible in game manager, who puts together puzzling lineups, doesnt handle pitching staffs very well, and form attatchments to veterns who at times completely suck. Their fans are arrogant, and a great deal of them...even the ones who go along with the self-proclaimed "best fans in baseball"(another thing that pisses me off), dont know a damn thing about the game. And now, they are acting like world beaters when in fact they are a bad team that won a bad division in a bad league, beat a team they could out slug, beat a team who had the injury bug hit at the exact wrong time, and then beat a team who flushed baseball fundamentals down the toilet. That said, they are champions. Yes, they are quite possibly the worst champions ever. But still champions. While I wont personally congratulate them, never will, and wont ever truly acknowlidge this travesty of a WS win, no one can take it away from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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